Chatter


Volume 71 No. 7 July, 2025


Editor’s Notes

This, the July issue of the Chatter, is going out on its usual schedule, and I hope that the Postal Service will not “Return to Sender, Not Deliverable as Addressed, Unable to Forward” as they did with a number of members for a past issue. All of the affected members live in the Western Suburbs of Chicago, and the used addresses seem okay.

The next Chatter issue – the August issue – will be sent in early August, a few days later than usual because of my summer vacation. I will miss the July meeting, but the August issue will tell you all about the July meeting.

Paul Hybert, editor


Minutes of the 1277th Meeting

The 1277th meeting of the Chicago Coin Club was called to order by President Melissa Gumm at 6:45pm CDT Wednesday June 11, 2025. This was an in-person and online meeting, with 15 members at the CBA and 25 members plus one guest, the program presenter, giving a total of 41.

Club Meeting Minutes

The May club meeting minutes were approved as published in the Chatter, both in print and on the CCC website.

New Members

Secretary Scott McGowan reported there were no membership applications.

Treasurer’s Report

Treasurer Elliott Krieter reported Treasurer Reports for April and May as follows. April 2025 Revenue $390.00 (Dues, CSNS Sales), Expenses $ 270.00 (Chatter and Room rent), for total of $120.00. May 2025 Revenue $770.00 (Advertising, Dues), Expenses $0.00, for a total of $770.00.

Old Business

  1. Committee Reports: Special Projects and Hall of Fame committees report no new business. The Legacy committee reported that interviews will continue. He has contacted individuals on the original list, and received responses from most as to interest in having their numismatic story documented for club history. Josh Benevento will assist in the project and interview contacts as well.
  2. Noah J. Graf reviewed information on the Ancient Coin Collectors Guild, and the possibility of CCC becoming an affiliate member. The guild works primarily to facilitate the import of ancient coins to the USA and related issues for ancient coinage. The Ancient Coin Club of Chicago was an affiliate member, however that club is now defunct. This gives the opportunity for the CCC to become an affiliate member for a one-time fee of $150. After presenting this in May and giving time for members to review the proposal, Noah made the motion for CCC to join. Scott McGowan reported that long time CCC member Cliff Mishler emailed the club with comments and strong support for this idea. The vote for CCC to join the Guild was passed. Member Julie Block inquired if this membership gives any guild benefits to all CCC members, to which Noah answered, “No.” Deven indicated CCC would receive communications about MOUs (US State Department Memorandums Of Understanding) regarding various countries restricting the importation of cultural property into the United States, so our club membership can engage in comments and conversation to support the Guild.
  3. Treasurer Elliott Krieter submitted a list of 15 members still in arrears for 2025 dues. The club voted to remove them from the membership. Membership can be reinstated when all arrears’ dues are brought current.
  4. Reminder: ANA 2025 officer’s elections; all ANA members are eligible to vote if at least 13 years of age, and after one year of membership. Visit www.money.org/election for more details. Ballots are due by July 1, 2025.

New Business

  1. There was no New Business.

Featured Program

Lianna Spurrier spoke on Samurai Silver. This presentation covered the series of rectangular silver coins issued in pre-Meiji Japan, from 1765 to 1868. Following the presentation, VP Deven Kane informed Lianna she will receive the CCC Speaker’s medal and an ANA Educational Certificate.

Show and Tell

Second Vice President Ray Dagenais announced the eight Show and Tell presentations for the evening.

Melissa Gumm reviewed the upcoming numismatic events, and also said anyone who has the opportunity to visit the Art Institute of Chicago should definitely see the “Myth & Marble: Ancient Roman Sculpture from the Torlonia Collection.” The exhibit is well worth it, and is there through June 29, 2025.

President Melissa Gumm adjourned the meeting at 8:40pm CDT.

Respectfully Submitted,
Scott A. McGowan, Secretary


Speaker’s Wor[l]d
Samurai Silver

presented by Lianna Spurrier
to our June 11, 2025 meeting

Japanese Bar Money are rectangular gold and silver pieces used as money for hundreds of years, up to 1868. Some series of gold pieces appeared first, but were issued in small numbers. This presentation covered a later series of rectangular silver coins issued in pre-Meiji Japan from 1765 to 1868 – these were issued in sufficient quantities to make them available and affordable to collectors now. Little information is available in English, with Lianna citing four books which include this series: Coins of Japan by Munro, 1904; Japanese Coinage by Vermuele and Jacobs, 1952; Early Japanese Coins by Hartill, 2011; and The Standard Catalog of Japanese Coins, 2021.

The highest denomination in pre-Meiji Japan was the ryo; a bu was ¼ of a ryo; and a shu was ¼ of a bu. (The denominations of the shown rectangular silver coins will be multiples of bu and shu.) The first four shown pieces reflect the frequent revisions to the currency standard – though of the same denomination, the declining amount of silver that was defined to be the value of one ryo meant less silver was needed in each denomination.

The first shown piece was of the Meiwa Go Momme type, which had only 361,200 pieces minted from 1765-1768, (the lowest of the series). Each piece weighs about 18.75 grams and has a low silver fineness of 46%. These pieces were cast, with a few parts later struck. These pieces continued the earlier tradition of marking coins with their weight, not with a denomination. “Go” means five, and “Momme” is a weight. The first word of a type’s name is the imperial era when the design was first minted; a new imperial era started when a new emperor ascended to the throne. (Value basis was 103.5 grams of silver per ryo. The average price range now is $1,500-$2,500.)

Although an official exchange rate of 1 gold ryo to 60 silver monma had been declared, the actual commercial rate fluctuated. Part of the reason was that gold money predominated in the eastern parts of Japan, while silver money predominated in the western parts.

The transaction of exchanging “weighing” coins for denominated gold was akin to selling bullion today. The value of the bullion changes over time, and you can charge a premium or offer it under the market value to suit your needs. The Meiwa Go Momme changed moneychangers from bullion dealers to bankers; they lost their ability to make a profit by using an exchange rate.

The Ko Nanryo type was minted during 1772-1788 and 1800-1824. The size was smaller, each weighing about 10.19 grams but with a high silver fineness of 97.8%; 47,464,336 were made. Details on the direct exchange of this silver coin to gold is part of the coin’s design. Silver obtained from melting old pieces of “weighing” silver pieces was used to make these; with these, moneychangers could charge a fee. (Value basis was 79.72 grams of silver per ryo. The average price range now is $150-$300.)

The word Nanryo means ⅛ryo, so it is equivalent to two shu. Pieces of the Meiwa Ko Nanryo type (1772-1788) have smooth sides while filed sides are present on the Kansei Ko Nanryo type (1800-1824).

The Shin Nanryo type was minted during 1824-1830, still using a high silver fineness of 97.8%. The pieces are smaller and lighter at about 7.5 grams; 60,625,280 were made. The word Shin means new. References differ as to which side is the obverse: PCGS has it one way, while Krause, Hartill, JNDA, Vermeule/Jacobs, and the British Museum have it the other way. (Value basis was 58.91 grams of silver per ryo. The average price range now is $150-$250.)

The Nanryo Isshu type (1829-1837) shrank even more, down to a weight of about 2.6 grams. It uses a slightly higher silver fineness of 98.9%, and 139,914,768 were made. To show relative sizes of these last four types, Lianna showed a slide with them next to a US Roosevelt dime – a Nanryo Isshu type is as tall as the dime, while a Meiwa Go Momme type is 2.5 times as tall. (Value basis was 41.62 grams of silver per ryo. The average price range now is $100-$200.)

The Tenpo Ichibu type (1837-1854) was shown next. This is a one bu (equal to four shu) denomination, so it weighs about 8.62 grams; 78,916,556 were made. These have a higher fineness of silver, known as “flowering silver.” Instead of the dots used around the edge of the prior coins, 20 cherry blossoms are used around the edge. (Value basis was 34.33 grams of silver per ryo. The average price range now is $45-$90.)

On July 8, 1853 Commodore Matthew Perry of the US Navy led his squadron into the harbor of Japan’s capital. This was the opening act in the years-long opening of Japan to wide US and western contacts. In the ensuing decades Japan would see many changes, including in the commercial realm.

The Kaei Isshu type (one shu), minted during 1853-1865 with a silver fineness of 96.8%, weighed about 1.89 grams; 159,244,800 were made. The cherry blossoms no longer are around the edges, having been replaced by dots. (Value basis was 29.27 grams of silver per ryo. The average price range now is $15-$40.)

The Ansei Trade Nisshu type (two shu) was issued for only 22 days in June of 1859. Only 706,400 were minted, making this the type with the second lowest mintage. The fineness of the silver was 84.5%, and each piece weighed about 13.6 grams. (The average price range now is $700-$1,100.)

In most places in the world, one ounce of gold was valued between 15 and 16 ounces of silver. Because Japan had only limited contact with the outside world for so long, one ounce of gold was valued as five ounces of silver. Now, the doors for commerce were open. Can you say arbitrage? The Mexican silver peso (8 reales) coins were a favored method of bringing silver into Japan, and were used to buy gold at the Japanese market price; export the gold back to Mexico, and exchange it back to Mexican pesos at the Mexican market price; you now have three times the number of Mexican pesos as you originally had! Want to play another round of this game?

Japan did not. Gold was leaving the country. For the Ansei Trade Nisshu type, the currency standard reversed its earlier decline and used an increased valuation of 92.07 grams of silver per ryo. (Or, we can say the value of silver fell.) The Trade Nisshu type was dropped after only 22 days, and a new type was tried.

The Ansei Ichibu type (one bu) was based upon a value of 30.14 grams of silver per ryo. During 1859-1868, 11,398,600 pieces were made using a silver fineness of 87.3%; each piece weighed about 8.62 grams. (The average price range now is $40-$80.)

The earlier 5-petal cherry blossoms reappear around the edges on this type, on both sides. All but one blossom on each side are oriented with one petal pointing up; one blossom is inverted, with one petal pointing down. The inverted blossom can be located along the top, bottom, or either side; on each side of a piece, the inverted blossom appears in different positions. The location of the inverted blossom indicates when that piece was made: we saw the inverted blossom positions highlighted on pieces from the Tenpo, Ansei, and Meiji types. See the book by Hartill for the details on this aspect.

The Meiji Ichibu type (one bu) was minted for 10 months during 1868-1869. They were a stopgap effort until a new mass production capability was established. Caligraphy variations impact values to specialists; if collecting the varieties, get the book! The fineness of the silver was 80.7%, each weighs about 8.62 grams, and 4,267,332 were made. (Value basis was 27.95 grams of silver per ryo. The average price range now is $100-$250.) The Meiji Restoration saw the end of rule by the Shogun, and restored effective imperial rule to Japan in 1868 under Emperor Meiji.

The Meiji Isshu type (one shu) are attractive, common, and inexpensive; their eye appeal is great for a type collector. These were minted during 1868-1869 using a silver fineness of 88%; 18,742,000 were minted, and each weighs about 1.89 grams. (Value basis was 26.47 grams of silver per ryo. The average price range now is $20-$50.) The Meiji Isshu type is very similar to the overlapping Kaei Isshu type mentioned earlier – the lines atop one of the characters is the only obvious difference.

The Shonai Ichibu type, issued in the summer of 1868, is unusual – pieces of Tenpo Ichibu (the high-grade silver pieces with cherry blossoms along the edges) were overstruck with one mark on each side. The mintage of 1,720,000 is unconfirmed, with 1,200,000 pieces made in Sakata and 520,000 pieces made in Tsuruoka; the location of the overstrike identifies where it was made. With an average price range of $90-$175 (and a range of $45-$90 for the undertype), counterfeit overstamps are a problem. On the typical counterfeits, the lines of the overstrike characters are thick and have noticeably sloping sides, while the genuine stamped characters have thin lines and the sides are nearly vertical. Lianna showed us closeup images of the stamped characters on a known good piece, a typical counterfeit piece, and the piece in her collection – which needs to be replaced, because it matches the typical counterfeit piece.

The last set of slides presented different possible type sets, based upon a budget.

Videos of Lianna giving earlier versions of this presentation are available online – check NNP, YouTube, and Google. Results from her ongoing research are available on her website https://rectanglecoins.com. Please review it for more background and details on this interesting topic. The material presented on her website will be going into her reference book, which is estimated to be released in five years.


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Show and Tell

Items shown at our June 11, 2025 meeting,
reported by Ray Dagenais.

  1. Tyler Rossi showed uniface and undated prison notes from Bosnia-Herzegovina. Used in the late 1980s at the prison in Zenica, Tyler showed us denominations of 15, 100, 150, and 300 dinars. The simple designs show the name as Kazneno Popravni DOM. Each note is hand stamped in blue ink; the word EKONOMIJA here loosely translates to “corner store.” Because this prison held numerous high-profile individuals, it was called the Mafia prison. Prisoners were generally well-cared for. Although prisoners received covid vaccinations during the pandemic, mental illness was not given the attention it deserved.
  2. Noah Graf showed a Pope John XXIII medal struck in Rome; it is 45mm in diameter. The obverse features a bust of the pope in vestments and crowned with the pearl- and jewel-encrusted Palatine Tiara. The reverse features a papal glove holding crossed keys, the centuries-old symbol of the Holy See. This silver-clad bronze medal was created for the coronation of Pope John XXIII on November 4, 1958. John XXIII was the last Pope to be inaugurated with this particular crown; the first had been Pope Leo XIII in 1878. John’s successor, Pope Paul VI, was the last pope to undergo the full coronation ceremony, but with a different tiara. The Palatine Tiara is now on permanent display in the Vatican. The beautiful portrait on this medal is the work of Sicilian sculptor and engraver Giuseppe Fortunato Pirrone (1898-1978). This particular medal was a gift to Noah, in the early 1990s, from Tom DeLorey, formerly of Harlan J Berk Ltd. While it does have a few nicks in the silver gilt, it is otherwise free both of ordinary wear and of any significant tarnish, despite never being cleaned or polished in the 30+ years it has been in his possession.
  3. Deven Kane showed three coins.
    1. A silver denarius, from Rome, featuring Faustina II (Augusta 147-175) on the obverse; this is a lifetime issue. The reverse features a standing Juno, holding a patera and long sceptre, with a peacock at her foot.
    2. A silver jeton from France, featuring Marie-Adélaïde of Savoy on the obverse; the reverse features the gods Hymen and Cupid together. Styled as Duchess of Burgundy after her marriage, she became Dauphine of France upon the death of her father-in-law, Le Grand Dauphin, in 1711. She died of measles in 1712, followed by her husband a week later. Their son, the Duke of Brittany succeeded as Dauphin, but he died the following March from the measles. The only child to survive the epidemic was the future Louis XV who was locked inside his apartments with his governess Madame de Ventadour to avoid being bled to death by doctors as his elder brother had been.
    3. A silver 2 Kronor from Sweden, of King Oscar II (1872-1907); a commemorative issue marking the 50th Anniversary of the marriage of King Oscar II and Lady Sofia, with their conjoined busts featured on the obverse. Oscar II was King of Sweden from 1872 until his death in 1907 and King of Norway from 1872 to 1905, inheriting both thrones when his brother died in 1872. His reign saw the gradual decline of the Union of Sweden and Norway, which culminated in its dissolution in 1905. Americans probably know him best for sardines – the King Oscar export brand was founded in 1902 when King Oscar II gave one of Norway’s leading canning companies “special royal permission” to use his name and likeness on a line of sardine products.
  4. In honor of the new pope from Chicago, Joshua Benevento showed a papal bulla, a lead seal used by the Vatican to authenticate official documents. It is from the papacy of Pius IX, who reigned from 1846 to 1878 and was the longest-serving pope in history. On the front, you can see the haloed heads of Saints Peter and Paul facing each other, with a cross between them – this has been the standard image on papal bullae for centuries. The reverse reads PIVS PAPA IX, identifying the pope who issued it. The cords attached to the top and bottom are original and were used to tie the bulla to a parchment document, ensuring it had not been opened or tampered with. Bullae like this gave rise to the term “Papal Bull,” referring to the documents themselves. This piece is especially significant because Pius IX was the last pope to rule the Papal States before Italy’s unification. After Rome was annexed by the new Italian state in 1870, Pius IX refused to recognize the authority of the Italian government and confined himself to the Vatican – beginning the Roman Question, a decades-long conflict over sovereignty that was not resolved until the Lateran Treaty of 1929. In this small object, you have both religious symbolism and a key moment in European political history.
  5. Laurence Edwards showed three British tokens that have long been associated with Pre-Federal America:
    1. A Kentucky token, a Franklin Press token, and a Washington Grate Cent.
    2. Earlier editions of the Red Book (his oldest is the 13th Edition, 1960) make statements such as, “During the period of confederation following the War of Independence, still more English tokens were added to the great variety of coins and tokens employed in the new nation.” Under this description are included Kentucky and Franklin Press tokens, as well as several Washington pieces.
    3. More recent editions of the Red Book are careful to say that the Kentucky tokens “are not known to have circulated in America;” the Franklin Press tokens “did not circulate as money in America, but being associated with a London shop where Benjamin Franklin once worked, they have long been included in American coin collections.” The Washington Grate Cents were advertising pieces that may have been meant “for circulation in the British Isles” [but not America.] They are included in collections of American Colonial / Pre-Federal coins by tradition, but not because they add to the picture of what was circulating in the young United States before Federal coinage was able to take over.
  6. Zach Filis showed coins of the Isle of Man, which is located in the Irish Sea between England and Ireland.
    1. The cast 1709 penny and half penny are considered the first issued coinage for the Isle of Man. These were crudely made. One side features an eagle over a baby in a nest, above the date. The other side features a central triskeles.
    2. In 1723 and 1725, patterns were struck of this type – they were not put into circulation. They used the same design as before, but have a better appearance than the earlier cast pieces.
    3. Under the Coinage Act of 1733, pennies and half pennies were to be produced on the island. Amos Topping and Samuel Dyall came from England to the Castle Rushen in Castletown to mint them, using the same design. Lord James Stanley, 10th Earl of Derby had the mint issue milled pennies and half pennies. These are considered the second series.
    4. Proofs were struck in silver and copper, while forgeries have been made in silver, copper, and brass. We saw proof examples in silver.
    The legend of the Eagle and Child originated in the fourteenth century when Sir Thomas De Lathom heard the cries of a child, which was found lying in an eagle’s nest. He adopted the child and made it his heir, but the new son died before Sir Thomas, so his daughter Isabel became the heir. Isabel married Sir John Stanley, who took the Eagle and Child as his crest, which has continued as the crest of the Derby family to this day. Zach concluded his presentation with an image of the Child and Eagle pub in Oxford, and it dates back to the 1600s.
  7. Joe Boling showed examples of suspected counterfeit and genuine 100 peso Japanese invasion notes (Rizal Monument series) overprinted with red characters meaning SPECIMEN.
    1. Two notes with consecutive serial numbers (in two lots) at a recent auction displayed unusual overprints which are brighter in color, have a slightly different font, and with what Joe called a “sloppy” appearance (stray ink outside the characters of the overprint). With his curiosity piqued, Joe won one of the lots for a closer inspection.
    2. Detailed high magnification images showed differences between the purchased note and genuine notes with the same overprint. The questionable note appears to have smooth fluid ink in the overprinted characters, which have rough edges caused by the red ink flowing between the intaglio horizontal black lines on the note. These appeared to have been produced with a silk screen process – a shown closeup clearly shows the lines of the silk screen.
    3. At the edges of the overprint characters on a genuine note, both the crisp edges and the narrow ink ridges are as expected on an overprint applied with a letterpress process. There are no letterpress diagnostics anywhere on the suspicious overprint.
    4. The grading service initially declined to change their opinion of the two notes in the auction. Joe intends to press the issue with them with the new information.
  8. Mark Wieclaw showed two Greek coins.
    1. A silver Athenian silver tetradrachm from 131-130 BC, of the “New Style” from about 165-42BC. The obverse is nicely centered, with a vertical die break through the face of Athena. The reverse has the lettering and the right eye of the eagle doubled – why was the doubling on only part of the reverse? He suggested that the reverse doubling was the result of the die break causing the reverse die to shift a bit before a second strike.
    2. A 1⁄10 stater (5.6mm in diameter, weighing 8.3 grams), which was the smallest of the electrum coinage for North Africa. One side features the head of a horse – coins of Carthage (Zeugitana) featured horses on their reverses. The other side features a palm tree, on a very small field only 5.6mm in diamter.
    To emphasize the difference in the sizes of the 1⁄10 stater and the silver tetradrachm, he showed the gold coin lying on top of the tetradrachm.

Reminders:


Minutes of the Chicago Coin Club Board

May 21, 2025

Chicago Coin Club Board Meeting May 21, 2025 6:00PM CST in person at Connie’s Pizza.

In attendance: Melissa Gumm, Deven Kane, Ray Dagenais, Bill Burd, Tyler Rossi, Mark Wieclaw, Carl Wolf, Steve Zitowsky, John Riley, Paul Hybert, and guest Dale Lukanich. Absent: Scott McGowan, Elliott Krieter, Jeff Rosina.

Call to Order by Melissa Gumm, Club President, at 6:09pm.

Old Business

  1. Special Projects Committee. Mark Wieclaw requests to step down as committee chair due to health, but wishes to remain on the committee. Discussion of current committee members and someone who might be willing to step up as new Chair; Mark to ask Rich Lipman if he is interested.
  2. Outstanding Tech issues, equipment purchases. Discussed budget to purchase club laptop with Windows software, a microphone, speaker(s), and camera (or scanner) to better project images, in addition to tablet. Spending was approved at 2024 board meeting, decision was made to set budget of up to $2000. Expectation is that enhancements will improve experience for in-person and online participants. Dale offered to reach out to Lianna, who has helped with legacy project, for possible suggestions for tech equipment.
  3. Tabled, on absence of secretary, CCC Database discussion to August board meeting – survey membership for association memberships i.e. ANA, CSNA, ILNA, and others; offices held; Collecting passions; First start in Numismatics; Other questions.
  4. December Banquet Committee: Mark Wieclaw, Scott McGowan, Jim Ray, and John Riley. Plan to check out banquet room at Elks Club in Des Plaines, Illinois in June; it has lots of space, bar, free parking, and close to I-90 and I-290. Excited to have committee who will keep in mind location, cost, type of food, and availability of parking.

New Business

  1. Secretary recommends we create a document of all club tech assets with: date acquired, model and serial numbers. All present agreed this was a great idea and should be rather easy to complete in a timely fashion.
  2. Guest Dale Lukanich – for the legacy project, we have better options for completing the interviews. New club member Joshua Benevento does a podcast and is interested/excited to help. Dale will provide the questions as a guideline to completing interviews of club members. A new list of names for interviews will be compiled by Dale with Carl’s assistance. Editing will continue to be done with the assistance of the Newman Numismatic Portal. Dale also brought up the idea of creating plaques for living Hall of Fame members on induction and for those already inducted. He has a friend with a laser etcher who can etch any type of stone we provide; we provide a PDF file and pay $30. It was agreed this was a neat idea; we will keep in mind and consider stone options.
  3. Addressed need for new board member to visit PO Box for mail pickup as Lyle Daly is retiring and will no longer be commuting to downtown regularly. Board member Tyler Rossi volunteered; he was highly recommended. Thank you, Tyler.
  4. Paul Hybert, Chatter editor, has completed a basic Index to Presenters (as recorded in Chatter issues); it is up to date, and it will be slowly extended. So when someone visits the club website, they are able to see when someone was a Featured Speaker or did a Show and Tell. Discussion was also made of adding “In Memory” links, among other possible extensions. http://www.chicagocoinclub.org/chatter/presenters.html
  5. Paul Hybert asked about Chatter Advertisers; the new annual ad-cycle begins with the June Chatter issue. So far two of the four advertisers have agreed to continue – Scott reaching out to the other two, but assume they will continue.
  6. Paul Hybert informed us that the ANA has voted to have the 2027 ANA WFoM in Chicago/Rosemont. The CCC board agreed we would inform ANA of our interest in being the host club. Discussion as to possible host chair, which will need to be approved by the ANA. And we should start lining up members for various roles, starting with those interested in being a Committee Chair.
  7. Melissa Gumm brought up need to have backup plans, as evidenced by the absence of the secretary at this board meeting. It would be good to have a list of interested club members from the general membership, not just from the board, who could step up and take minutes at a meeting or write up a presentation in the absence of the Chatter editor. There is a natural progression with president and vice presidents, but we do not seem to have any natural coverage for other positions. At June club meeting, will ask for interested club members to cover in such instances.

President Melissa Gumm adjourned the meeting at 7:11 pm.

Respectfully Submitted,
Melissa Gumm

2025 Future Board Meetings: August 27, November 19.


Our 1278th Meeting

Date: July 9, 2025
Time: 6:45PM CDT (UTC-05:00)
Location: Downtown Chicago
At the Chicago Bar Association, 321 S. Plymouth Court, 3rd or 4th floor meeting room. Please remember the security measures at our meeting building: everyone must be prepared to show their photo-ID and register at the guard’s desk.
Online: For all the details on participating online in one of our club meetings, visit our Online Meeting webpage at www.chicagocoinclub.org/meetings/online_meeting.html. Participation in an online meeting requires some advance work by both our meeting coordinator and attendees, especially first-time participants. Please plan ahead; read the latest instructions on the day before the meeting! Although we try to offer a better experience, please be prepared for possible diifficulties.
Featured Program: Jeffrey A. AmelseCivil War Tokens – With Emphasis on Those With Cracks, Cuds, and Other Oddities
The Civil War began on April 12, 1861. Mintage of the Indian Head cent dropped to about 10 million in 1861. This led to a shortage of small change and the private minting of Civil War tokens which were accepted by merchants as emergency currency. Thousands of varieties of each group were issued, so a complete listing cannot be covered in a one-hour session. Since these were private issues, they were not subject to the quality control of the U.S. Mint. This talk will focus on examples with mint errors, including cuds, cracks, and other oddities such as spelling errors. A few varieties will be tracked by die state from early issues with no problems to late states with multiple cracks or cuds. A few restrikes of Confederate cents have been produced, some from defaced dies. For those in attendance, a few of these genuine fake Confederate restrikes will be given to lucky winners of a lottery.
Participation in an online meeting requires some advance work by both our meeting coordinator and attendees, especially first-time participants. Please plan ahead; reread the latest instructions on the day before the meeting!

Important Dates

Unless stated otherwise, our regular monthly CCC Meeting is in downtown Chicago, and also online, on the second Wednesday of the month; the starting time is 6:45PM CT.

July 9 CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - Jeff Amelse on Civil War Tokens – With Emphasis on Those With Cracks, Cuds, and Other Oddities
August 13 CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - Mike Nottelmann on Podcasts (and other digital info) for the Numismatic Enthusiast or How to Research Coin in the Misinformation Era
August 19-23 ANA in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, at the Oklahoma City Convention Center. Admission is free for ANA members — for details, see http://www.worldsfairofmoney.com.
September 4-6 ILNA 2025 Annual Coin & Currency Show at the Tinley Park Convention Center, 18451 Convention Center Drive, Tinley Park, Illinois 60477. Details, including hours and events, are available at http://www.ilnaclub.org/show.html
September 10 CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - to be determined
October 8 CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - to be determined

Chatter Matter

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Club Officers

Elected positions:
Melissa Gumm- President
Deven Kane- First V.P.
Ray Dagenais- Second V.P.
William Burd- Archivist
Directors:Tyler Rossi
Mark Wieclaw
Carl Wolf
Steve Zitowsky
Appointed positions:
John Riley- Immediate Past President
Scott McGowan- Secretary
Elliott Krieter- Treasurer
Paul Hybert- Chatter Editor, webmaster
Jeffrey Rosinia- ANA Club Representative

Correspondence

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CHICAGO COIN CLUB
P.O. Box 2301
CHICAGO, IL 60690

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Payments to the Club, including membership dues, can be addressed to the Treasurer at the above street address.

Payments

Renewing Members Annual dues are $20 a year ($10 for Junior, under 18). Annual Membership expires December 31 of the year through which paid. Cash, check, or money order are acceptable (USD only please). We do not accept PayPal. Email your questions to Treasurer.ChicagoCoinClub@GMail.com Members can pay the Club electronically with Zelle™ using their Android or Apple smart phone. JP Morgan Chase customers can send payments to the Club via Quick Pay. To see if your Bank or Credit Union is part of the Zelle™ Payments Network, go to https://www.zellepay.com Please read all rules and requirements carefully.


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