Chatter
Volume 71 No. 4 |
April, 2025 |
Minutes of the 1274th Meeting
The 1274th meeting of the Chicago Coin Club was called to order by
President Melissa Gumm at 6:50pm CDT Wednesday March 12, 2025.
This was an in-person and online meeting, with 14 members and one guest
applying for membership at the CBA, and 34 Members and four guests
online for a total of 53.
Club Meeting Minutes
The February club meeting minutes were approved as published in the
Chatter, both in print and on the CCC website.
New Members
Secretary Scott McGowan completed the second membership application
reading for Brian Hobdy of Franklin, Kentucky, a collector of Ancient
and Medieval coinage.
The club voted to approve membership.
The first reading was completed for Alvaro Jacome of Calumet City,
Illinois, a new coin collector who is renewing his interests after
finding a Silver content Washington Quarter in circulation.
Treasurer’s Report
Treasurer Elliott Krieter presented the February, 2025 period
treasurer’s report with revenue of $345.96 (Dues, Donation) and
Expenses $256.00 (Chatter expense, CBA room rent) for a period
total of $89.96.
The report was accepted and approved by the club membership.
Old Business
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President Melissa Gumm reminded members that 2025 dues of $20 regular,
$10 Youth, are now due.
Pay by check to the PO Box, or via ZELLE banking app and specify
treasurer.chicagocoinclub@gmail.com
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Committee Reports:
Special Projects and Hall of Fame committees indicated no reports.
Legacy committee Dale Lukanich reported he is scheduling two interviews
on Wednesday, April 23, at 4pm at the CSNS convention.
New Business
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President Melissa Gumm reported that the CCC board approved the idea of
Secretary Scott McGowan to do a CCC membership survey about numismatic
collecting interests, numismatic organization memberships, and other
numismatic questions surrounding when and how members got started in
numismatics.
The purpose in this is to document the wide breadth of the club’s
collecting and membership interests, and help us with future Legacy
projects for our members.
The survey will be both online and paper copy.
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Melissa announced the club is calling for members to help plan and
select a location for the December annual club banquet.
Interested members should reach out to Mark Wieclaw or Scott McGowan.
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Melissa announced the CCC board approved an advertisement for the club
in the CSNS convention show program.
The half-page ad will feature information about our 100+ years of
following our club motto with educational programs and show and tell;
it will promote our Saturday meeting at CSNS and membership information,
along with images of our 50th and 100th anniversary club medals and our
Speaker’s Medal.
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Melissa read an announcement from Harlan J. Berk, Ltd. for an Intern /
Scholarship opportunity.
They seek an AP World History student for their inaugural internship
& scholarship program.
The ideal candidate should devote a minimum of 3 days a week, 4-8 hours
per day, during their summer break and then, as time allows, during
various school breaks and after school during the next school year.
Interested applicants should email Russb@hjbltd.com no later than
April 1, 2025.
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Melissa read an announcement from CCC member Kathy Freeland, who is
also President of the Michigan State Numismatic Society (MSNS); she
would like our club members to know the spring MSNS show will be held
May 8-10 in Kalamazoo, Michigan at the Kalamazoo County Expo Center,
Main Expo Hall, 2900 Lake Street, Kalamazoo, Michigan 49048.
Kalamazoo is an easy 2-2½ hour train ride from Chicago starting
at about $32 each way.
More information is at
https://michigancoinclub.org/convention/
Featured Program
Ray Feller and Steve Feller (with help from Katie Ameku and Momo
McCloskey-Feller) on Money Used in Japanese-American Internment
Camps.
Show and Tell
Second Vice President Ray Dagenais announced the ten Show and Tell
presentations for the evening.
President Melissa Gumm adjourned the meeting at 9:20pm CDT.
Respectfully Submitted,
Scott A. McGowan,
Secretary
Speaker’s Wor[l]d
Money Used in Japanese-American Internment Camps
presented by
Ray Feller
and
Steve Feller
(with contributions by Katie Ameku and Momo McCloskey Feller)
to our March 12, 2025 meeting
After acknowledging the support provided by the Newman Numismatic Portal at Washington University in St. Louis,
Ray showed a map of the United States marked with: the Exclusion Area (western Washington and Oregon, all of California, and southern Arizona);
Assembly Centers of the WCCA; Relocation and Isolation Centers of the WRA, as well as its temporary camps and other facilities;
and facilities of the Justice Department, US Army, and others.
This presentation would cover the facilities of the Wartime Civil Control Administration (WCCA) and the War Relocation Authority (WRA).
In May of 1942, all people of Japanese ancestry, who lived in the Exclusion Area, were ordered to report to an assigned Assembly Center.
They were allowed to bring only possessions that they could carry; the government would assist in the disposition or storage of other property
(at the owner’s risk); the evacuation to Assembly Centers had to be completed in nine days.
Washington, Oregon, and Arizona had one Assembly Center each, while California had 13.
From these centers, evacuees were shipped to one of the Relocation Centers operated by the WRA.
The last of the Assembly Centers closed in October of 1942 – on June 2 the Relocation Center at Manzanar, California
was converted into a Relocation Center, the only one so converted.
Ray and Steve showed slides from their visit to Los Angeles, where their first stop was the Japanese American Museum in the Little Tokyo part of town.
By calling ahead to make arrangements, they were able to examine 20 boxes of material, including ration coupons and other numismatic items.
Booklets of coupons in different values were found, but most had only one or two of the 1¢ coupons still present.
Other personal items seen included timecards, work assignment forms, and meal ticket cards.
Next, they visited Santa Anita Racetrack, site of the largest and longest operating Assembly Center (open from March 27 through October 27,
and holding 18,719 internees on August 23).
There was no horse racing that day, so they were able to wander some of the public grounds and areas; but they had only limited glances and peeks at the horse barns and owner/trainer areas.
A plaque in front mentions its wartime uses: first as an assembly and processing center for Japanese Americans, and then as an Army base.
Part of the first page of the Santa Anita Pacemaker, issue number 17 of June 12, 1942, was shown.
One story tells that the first pay day is getting closer – the first payroll (for the fiscal month ending April 15)
was sent to San Francisco on the prior day; the second payroll (for the fiscal month ending May 15) is being completed.
Another story told that about $5000 worth of War bonds, and $100 in War Savings stamps, was purchased by Center residents at the Santa Anita post office.
A third story was about the increased production in the Center of camouflage nets for the Army.
An illustration of a coupon booklet was on a page of another issue of the Pacemaker – it contains $2.50 worth of coupons,
and the caption mentions it contains “tickets” of 10¢, 5¢, 2¢, and 1¢denominations.
When making a purchase, the clerk is to remove the appropriate coupons from a booklet – loose coupons are not accepted.
After a while, cash was not allowed for general purchases in the Assembly Centers; cash could only buy coupon booklets.
Then to Pomona to visit the Los Angeles County Fairgrounds, where a plaque remembers its use as an Assembly Center from May 7 to August 24, when most
detainees were sent to a Relocation Center at Heart Mountain, Wyoming.
The fairgrounds now has a roofed grandstand and a large paved parking area; nothing from its time as an Assembly Center were in the shown photos,
except for the view of the low mountains in the distance.
The WRA Relocation Centers were quickly built, and offered primitive facilities in remote locations.
All internees were given housing, food, and clothing – a small allowance was given in the form of coupons.
Paid work was available in the camps at unskilled, skilled, and professional levels.
Among the paper relics from life in these centers are items relating to the national efforts at price controls and rationing.
The Office of Price Administration issued ration books and forms for many consumer items –
we saw a 20-point ration coupon for PROCESSED FOODS (OPA Form R-1325).
We also saw an OPA Sugar Purchase Certificate (OPA Form R-306) repurposed to a Shoe Purchase Certificate by crossing out SUGAR and hand printing SHOE –
it was filled in to allow George Yahiro at Heart Mt., Wyoming to accept delivery of one pair of shoes.
An image with part of the Tulean Dispatch Daily dated July 2, 1943 has an article that special shoe stamps are good for 30 days only.
Many Relocation Centers had detainee-run Co-op stores, and we saw a $5 coupon book for the community enterprises of Heart Mountain, Wyoming,
along with a receipt for a 15¢ purchase at the Tule Lake Co-op, with a notation that it is valuable and must be retained to receive dividend.
There was a picture of a “Stamp Book and Patronage Record” for the Minidoka Consumer’s Co-operative,
and pictures of two Statements of Patronage & Disposition of Refunds from the Manzanar Cooperative Enterprises, Inc.
The September 25, 1942 issue of the Fresno Grapevine headlined that the move to the Jerome Relocation Center will begin on October 14;
that center is 25 miles away from the Rohwer Relocation Center which will hold detainees from the Santa Anita and Stockton Assembly Centers.
Ray and Steve showed photos from their visit to the sites of Rohwer and Jerome Relocation Centers in southeast Arkansas.
Very few of the remains of these two centers remain onsite; one of their pictures shows the chimney of the hospital at Jerome in a field,
one shows a modern sign marking the site of the Rohwer Relocation Center, one shows a memorial to the camps,
and one shows the military memorial to the 100th Infantry Battalion and the 442nd Regimental Combat Team.
The World War II Japanese American Internment Camp Museum in McGehee, Arkansas contains items from the camps;
we saw a normal OPA ration booklet, with some stamps still attached, made out to an internee at
the Jerome Relocation Center; an admission ticket to a Birthday Ball at the block 44 dining hall, good for one couple;
and a raffle ticket listing luggage sets as the top three prizes.
A page from a camp newspaper showed active baseball and softball leagues.
Mention was made of a 2-game series on July 3 and 4 between the Center’s all-stars and a team from the 100th Infantry (formed of Nisei from Hawaii)
who were in training at Camp Shelby, Mississippi; a photo and a card were also shown.
A picture inside a store shows counters down both sides of a room, with a long counter on each side, and all goods stacked against a wall behind a counter.
A display case in the museum shows a model of a barracks building, but officially no barracks survive.
Recent photos show a now-shuttered wooden Episcopal Church building, with a barracks building attached to one side at the back of the church.
While showing Ray, Momo, Katie, and Steve around, the former speaker of the Arkansas House of Representatives, referred to us by the town’s former mayor,
also mentioned that his house (when he was growing up) used windows salvaged from barracks.
Although items such as newspaper and scrapbooks are available online, going into the field and talking with the locals can produce surprises.
After the Japanese Americans were released from Jerome Center, it was turned into a camp for Prisoners of War.
The cover of a $15 coupon book for the P. W. Camp at Jerome, Arkansas was shown, along with sdetached coupons in denominations of:
1¢, 5¢, 10¢, 25¢, 50¢, and $1.
The program ended with a picture of a check from the United States Treasury, dated October 1, 1992, in the amount of $20,000 –
payable to one of the internees at a camp.
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Show and Tell
Items shown at our March 12, 2025 meeting,
reported by Ray Dagenais.
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To complement the featured presentation by Ray and Steve Feller,
John Riley
showed a 25¢ internment camp token from the Camp Canteen for the
Department of Jutice’s Crystal City, Texas during World War II
and used mainly by Japanese-related residents of the United States at
the time.
This drab appearing item is made of fibre, not metal.
John is interested in the Redbook series featuring these issues of the
U.S. Department of Justice and speculated that Chicago“s Meyer
& Wente firm likely minted the tokens.
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Bob Leonard
showed coins from two Roman usurpers who are NOT pictured on their coins.
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Billon antoninianus of the usurper Postumus in Gaul, circa 265-268.
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Bronze antoninianus of emperor Gallienus, 260-268.
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Bronze antoninianus of Aureolus with portrait of Postumus, 268.
Aureolus, a calvary general of Gallienus, revolted against him in 268
and declared for Postumus.
He struck coins at the mint of Milan in the name of Postumus, but of
the small, bronze standard of Gallienus, with a cavalry reference on
the reverse.
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Double centenionalis of Magnentius, usurper in the West, 252-253, from
the Ambianum Mint.
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Centenionalis of Decentius, brother or cousin of Magnentius, 351-352,
from the Lugdunum Mint.
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“Centenionalis” (Majorina?) of Constantius II, 346-350,
from the Antioch Mint.
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Double centenionalis of Constantius II, issued at Treveri Mint in 353
during revolt of Poemenius against Decentius and Magnentius.
Uncirculated, and struck on a full flan with fresh dies, this coin has
had some corrosion removed at the lower obverse, recolored, and spray
lacquered.
For anyone collecting coins of rulers “who ended badly,”
the later Roman Empire is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Of these seven men, only Constantius II died of natural causes –
Postumus and Gallienus were assassinated, Aureolus and Poemenius were
executed (the later unrelated to his revolt), and Magnentius and
Decentius committed suicide.
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Around 1991,
Noah Graf
attended his first Chicago Cubs game.
That day, the team was giving out souvenir bronze tokens with the face
of legendary Cubs hitter Ryne Sandberg on the obverse.
You could only get them if you actually attended the game.
The reverse features a sponsorship logo from Chicago-based True Value
Hardware stores.
These tokens are not terribly valuable – Noah found examples on
eBay for between $5 and $20 – but as a piece of personal
numismatic history, it means a lot to him.
This came his way just as he was starting to get interested in real
coins, and since he actually got this at the point of issuance, it has
a 30+ year “provenance” of him alone.
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Laurence Edwards
followed up on his earlier inquiry about numismatic reprints from
Chicago.
He showed two more volumes and a coin:
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Use of God’s Name: Jehovah on Coins, Medals, Tokens and
Jetons by Saul B. Needleman, PhD (a past President of CCC).
This book is not a reprint; published through XLibris.
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A coin related to the Needleman book:
A silver 4 skilling coin from Denmark, of Christian IV (1588-1648).
Weighing 1.75grams and 21mm. in diameter, it was struck in Copenhagen
in 1645.
One side has the date with the legend above: Hebrew letters (YAHWEH),
IUSTUS, and IUDEX (God is a righteous judge).
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The Morphology of Coins by C.F. Keary, originally published in
1885; reprinted by Argonaut, Inc, Publishers, Chicago, 1970.
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Laurence had contacted Roosevelt University Library to find out
whether they still had any part of the old CCC Library.
The person he spoke to knew nothing about it.
Folks in attendance seemed to know that the library is long since
gone from Roosevelt University, and presumed lost.
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Deven Kane
showed four ancient coins.
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A silver hemiobol from the Greek city of Kyrene in Kyrenaka (eastern
part of modern Libya), circa 525-500 BC.
The obverse of this very small coin shows the fruit of the silphium
plant, while the reverse has a rough incuse square.
Its diameter is 6mm, and it weighs only 0.32 grams.
The extinction of the silphium plant in Roman times was the result of
its popularity as a food and a medicinal herb, along with the inability
to cultivate it.
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A bronze Roman coin (circa 147-175AD) from the city of Anchialos in
the province of Thrace (in southeast Europ, now parts of Bulgaria,
Greece, and Türkiye).
The obverse features a draped bust of Faustina II (wife of Marcus
Aurelius), while the reverse features a veiled and seated Demeter,
holding two ears of grain and a long torch.
The legend identifies her as “the new Augusta.”
Its diameter is 26 mm, and its weight is 10.18 grams.
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A bronze Roman coin (circa 161-176AD) from the city of Hadrianopolis
in the province of Thrace (present-day Edirne, Türkiye).
The obverse features a younger diademed and draped bust of Faustina
II (wife of Marcus Aurelius), while the reverse features a standing
Hera, sacrificing from a patera over an altar, while holding a sceptre.
The legend identifies her as “the Augusta.”
Its diameter is 21 mm, and its weight is 6.89 grams.
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An Arabic silver drachm (dated AH 76 = AD 695/6) featuring a
Pahlavi Bust of Khosrow II, the last Sasanian Emperor on the obverse.
It was minted in Bishapur by the Arab general al-Muhallab ibn Abi
Sufra, who served successive terms as the governor of Fars (685-686),
Mosul, Arminiya, Adharbayjan (687-688), and Khurasan (698-702).
The main reverse design element is a fire altar flanked by two
attendants.
The coin is 32mm in diameter, weighs 4.00 grams, and has both Pahlavi
and Arabic inscriptions – so it still has the “look”
of a Sasanian coin.
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Lyle Daly
told of his roll search activities and his 1798 Draped Bust Dollar.
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He has a life-long interest in roll searching, and explained that
since he worked at a bank the process became much simpler for him.
One of his finds was a 1959-D Lincoln cent which was the first/earliest
Lincoln Memorial cent; he pulled it out of the roll because of the
toning … based on the reverse he guessed it was in a drawer
face up for many years.
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He was surprised to find a 1943-S five-cent coin.
This design was used from 1938 to 2003, and it was created by Felix
Schlag.
Nickel was considered a critical item during the war years 1942 to
1945; these issues were 56% copper 35% silver and 9% manganese.
Lyle considers coins to be similar to the zuni meditation fetishes
whereby you hold the object and consider its properties.
So, he thought about what was occurring in 1943, and he described a
personal connection with that year through his father who, in his
early 20s, was a bombardier in the nose of a B-24 in the Pacific
Theater.
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A 1798 Draped Bust Dollar – designed by Robert Scot, the Chief
Engraver at the U.S. Mint from 1793 until 1823.
The Heraldic Eagle reverse was used from 1798 to 1804, replacing the
Small Eagle reverse.
The bust of Liberty is purported to have been taken from a drawing,
by the famous artist Gilbert Stuart, of Ann Bingham.
The obverse is of the pointed “9” far date variety, while
the reverse is of the 5 berry/4 stripe variety.
In what some have called a colossal design blunder, Scot placed the
arrows in the eagle’s right talon; some thought the arrows
should have been placed in the eagle’s left talon and the
olive branch in the right talon.
What was happening in the United States at that time?
The Sedition Act of 1798 was part of a series of measures designed to
deal with the threats involved in the undeclared war with France.
Critics viewed the act as a thinly disguised partisan effort to
control political debate, and yielded the first sustained debate over
the meaning of the First Amendment.
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Continuing his introduction to the British engraver George Mills,
Zach Filis
covered James Mudie (pronounced moody) and a “Mule.”
During the time George Mills worked at the SOHO Mint in England, James
Mudie requested that a forty-medal series, commemorating the British
Victories over the French during the reign of King George III, be made.
In 1820, a set of 40 medals was issued by James Mudie to commemorate
victories from 1797 to 1817.
The medals depicted important military and naval events.
The medals were produced in silver and bronze, and measured 41mm in
diameter.
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The book, written by Mudie, describing the subject matter and
importance of each medal.
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Zach showed all fourteen of the forty medals that had the obverse,
reverse, or both designed and engraved by Mills; Mills won a gold
medal from the Royal Arts Society for two of these medals.
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An image of the letter to George IV (to whom the medal series was
dedicated) from Mudie, along with images of the album and medal
trays.
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An interesting related medal is a mule, where two obverses were
struck onto one medal.
The first obverse is by Mills and is of the Prince Regent, later
becoming King George IV; the Prince Regent handled the duties of King
George III during the period when he was indisposed.
The second obverse is by Thomas Webb and is of King George III; both
are included in the Mudie series.
Although Laurence Brown’s book on historic medals states that
the Ashmolean Museum in England has a copy of this mule in their
collection, the curator at the museum has been unable to locate the
medal.
His search continues.
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Dale Lukanich
showed three coins issued by Trajan for Antioch in 115/116 CE
These unusual issues struck at the end of 115 are typically attributed
to an eastern mint, usually Antioch.
All issues have a bust right of Trajan on the obverse.
The reverse has SC in a wreath.
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A half quadrans with a laurel wreath on the bust.
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The quadrans and semis have radiate busts, and all are struck on
orichalcum flans.
Metallurgical tests have shown that the orichalcum used is
indistinguishable from the orichalcum used for Roman sestertii and
dupondii, and quite different from the orichalcum used for some
provincial issues.
What was Trajan doing in Antioch in 115 CE?
In 110 CE, the pro-Roman King of Armenia was deposed by the Persians.
Trajan was outraged, and so he decided to launch a campaign to restore
him in 113-114 CE.
Although the Romans were victorious, Trajan made the bold decision to
annex Armenia directly as an Imperial province instead of restoring
his “client” king.
Trajan then defeated the Persian army in upper Mesopotamia, and
annexed that territory as well.
The coins may have been struck to commemorate Trajan’s twentieth
renewal of the tribunicia potestas (tribunician power) on
December 10, 115.
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Mark Wieclaw
covered numerous aspects of elongated coins, starting with the new
face of The Elongated Collectors (TEC), Cindy Calhoun.
He continued with photos of elongateds acquired at the 2025 FUN
convention; the show’s souvenir elongated design features a clock
face as the central device.
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At a dealer’s “8 for a dollar” bin, Mark found
Mexican bi-metallic coins – 1 Peso, 2 Peso, and 5 Peso –
which he thought might work well with the show’s elongated
design.
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When elongating coins of differing sizes, centering the design on each
coin takes practice – as shown by a range of imperfect results.
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Another shown problem with bi-metallic coinsis that the outer ring
might crack, and the central piece will pop out.
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A 2019 Russian Beard Token COPY was elongated quite well.
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Examples of elongates on pre-1982 versus post-1982 Cents were shared.
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Mark told how Ray Dillard had, as his last project, created elongated
cents for the 2020 CSNS Convention, which was canceled due to COVID.
They were returned to Ray Dillard’s family, which then sent then
to TEC, and it was decided to distribute them to TEC members for free.
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Mark concluded with an exposition of how elongates for special family
events (births and marriages of his children) have been kept by
friends and family.
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Richard Lipman
showed bonds issued by a 175-year-old Chicago Synagogue in 1932 and
1942.
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Punch-hole canceled $100, $500, and $1000 bonds.
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The 1932 bonds were payable in gold, originally.
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The building was used as surety, and “Church Bonds” are
subject to risks, including:
Lack of Liquidity; Loss of Church Tax-Exempt Status (potentially
affecting church members’ contributions, which could reduce
debt service coverage); Departure of a Popular Pastor (impact of
leadership changes); Redemption Risk (because of their high yields,
they might be redeemed early if interest rates decline); and
Bankruptcy Risk (the proceeds from the sale of the church property
may not fully cover the outstanding bonds).
Reminders:
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You can email to Ray a description of what you will
show at a meeting, to give him a start on this write-up.
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Send it to cccshowandtell@gmail.com
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After a meeting, all members who viewed the meeting should
email him their scoring sheet – a listing of each
exhibit number followed by a score (from a low of 1 to a high of
10) is all that is needed.
Minutes of the Chicago Coin Club Board
February 19, 2025
CCC President Melissa Gumm called the online meeting to order at
6:06pm CST.
In attendance were Melissa Gumm, Deven Kane, Ray Dagenais, Paul Hybert,
John Riley, Scott McGowan, Mark Wieclaw, Elliott Krieter, Carl Wolf,
Steve Zitowsky, and Tyler Rossi.
Old Business
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Special Projects reported that part of its task to look into ideas of
projects for CCC funds investment also included partial treasury move
to investments, and that treasurer Elliott Krieter had invested part
of CCC funds into two Certificate of Deposit accounts per the December
2024 Treasurer’s report.
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CCC Archives awaiting Ricard materials donation.
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The new wireless microphone approved by the board in 2024 still needs
to be researched and purchased.
Mark Wieclaw asked. should we bring in someone to audit our hybrid
meeting process for better online viewing and listening.
Deven Kane indicated that a new windows-based laptop may solve issues
as it would have the extra ports and features.
Deven continued that we are using a $30 speaker purchased 5 years ago,
so a better speaker would help.
Tyler Rossi volunteered that he may have a speaker we could use.
Treasurer Elliott Krieter indicated he would get a quote for the
laptop with MS Windows and Microsoft software, and he will also reach
out to the CBA for costs on using their media equipment.
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New board position for Media Management was tabled until the May
meeting.
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It was mentioned that ILNA could have a grant program to help clubs
and we could research the possibility of a grant for AV assistance.
New Business
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Elliott Krieter proposed to the board the idea of CCC becoming a
sponsor to CSNS at one of the upper tier levels.
Steve Zitowsky asked the question about CCC including ILNA and ANA as
well.
The tier of $750 sponsorship for CSNS would need to go to a full club
approval, being it is over the Board’s $500 limit.
The board discussed an ad in the CSNS program as well.
After some quick online research, the board decided to forgo the
sponsorship due to timing and move forward with the ad.
Scott McGowan contacted CSNS for ad details and deadline, and Mark
Wieclaw volunteered for the ad design.
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Deven raised the question about the featured speaker for the CSNS CCC
meeting.
Mark Wieclaw indicated working on something, but said a higher profile
featured speaker would be great.
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John Kent sent an email he received from Harlan Berk about a youth
internship/scholarship opportunity for promotion to the CCC membership.
The board approved promoting it through email, the Chatter, and
at a club meeting.
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Life membership – an application for Life membership has been
requested by a member.
Scott McGowan sent the application.
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Carl Wolf indicated we need to replace the black file boxes used to
store and take club materials to numismatic shows.
Cost estimate is $27.29 each.
The board approved the purchase, then Steve Zitowsky indicated he
ZELLED the $54.58 to the treasurer to cover the cost.
Thank you Steve!!
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Secretary Scott McGowan proposed a voluntary survey of the club
membership to ask various numismatic details of our membership such
as collecting interests, numismatic memberships, length of time
involved in numismatics, when they started and how, among other
interesting details.
The board approved the survey.
Scott will prepare the draft and review with the board before sending
it out.
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The August CCC Board meeting has been scheduled for August 20, which
is during the ANA World’s Fair of Money® Show.
Should we change our date?
The board agreed to move the date to August 27, 2025.
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Mark Wieclaw proposed we establish a banquet committee early on, to
research and propose locations for the 2025 December banquet.
It will be added to the March meeting agenda.
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Paul Hybert noted that portions of the membership that receive the
Chatter newsletter by post and by email have yet to pay 2025
dues.
It was noted that dues are due by March 31, 2025.
Elliott Krieter will send email reminders to outstanding members.
It was also noted that we have several checks from the PO Box that are
in the process of being deposited now.
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Carl Wolf recommended we have a microphone for the CCC meeting at the
CSNS due to the room and attendance size.
Scott will check cost.
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Scott McGowan showed on screen the CCC listing on the ANA website for
club details, noting that it has been updated with new phone and email
information.
President Melissa Gumm adjourned the meeting at 7:25pm CST.
Respectfully Submitted,
Scott A. McGowan, Secretary
2025 Future Board Meetings: May 21 (in-person), August 27,
November 19.
Our 1275th Meeting
Date: |
April 9, 2025, First Session |
Time: |
6:45PM CDT (UTC-05:00) |
Location: |
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At the Chicago Bar Association, 321 S. Plymouth Court, 3rd or 4th floor meeting room.
Please remember the security measures at our meeting building:
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Online: |
For all the details on participating
online in one of our club meetings, visit our Online Meeting
webpage at
www.chicagocoinclub.org/meetings/online_meeting.html.
Participation in an online meeting requires some advance
work by both our meeting coordinator and attendees,
especially first-time participants.
Please plan ahead; read the latest instructions
on the day before the meeting!
Although we try to offer a better experience, please be
prepared for possible diifficulties.
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Featured Program: |
Tyler Rossi —
Bombing with Banknotes
Less than 8 years after the invention of controlled flight by the
Wright brothers in 1903, there was documented use of an airplane
being employed during war.
Not during World War I, but the Italo-Turkish war of 1911 when the
Italian Army Air Corps used Blériot XI and Nieuport IV monoplanes
for reconnaissance over the Turkish provinces of Tripolitana and
Cyrenaica (modern Libya).
Other than bombing or reconnaissance, one of the most common uses for
warplanes quickly became airborne leaflet dropping.
By “bombing the enemy with ideas,” these leaflets often
fall into the psyops category of war, and have six main objectives:
to threaten destruction, to prompt the enemy to surrender, to offer
rewards, to disseminate or counter disinformation, to facilitate
communication, or to provide humanitarian assistance.
Of the millions of propaganda leaflets dropped across space and time,
one fascinating subset can be considered exonumia.
These are leaflets that display a print of local banknotes on one or
more faces (often the front) and the propaganda message on the back.
Some were so accurate that, especially in Vietnam, locals used them
as counterfeit currency!
Participation in an online meeting requires some advance
work by both our meeting coordinator and attendees,
especially first-time participants.
Please plan ahead; reread the latest instructions
on the day before the meeting!
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Date: |
April 26, 2025, Second Session (in-person only) |
Time: |
12:00 PM CDT (UTC-05:00) |
Location: |
At the Central States Numismatic Society (CSNS) Convention,
which is held at the Renaissance Hotel & Convention Center, 1551 N. Thoreau Drive, Schaumburg, IL. |
Featured Program: |
Mark Wieclaw —
The Princess and the Saint
This presentation will cover the career of Italian gem engraver
Benedetto Pistrucci, and focus on his iconic St. George and the
Dragon design that has graced British coinage since 1817.
In addition to the story behind the design, various design changes,
mint locations, and more, we will also show how the late Princess
Diana is connected to the actual inspiration of this over two hundred
year old coin design.
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Important Dates
Unless stated otherwise,
our regular monthly CCC Meeting is
in downtown Chicago, and also online,
on the second Wednesday of the month;
the starting time is 6:45PM CT.
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April |
9 |
CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - Tyler Rossi on Bombing with Banknotes |
April |
24-26 |
86th Anniversary Convention of the Central States Numismatic Society
at the Schaumburg Renaissance Hotel & Convention Center, 1551 North Thoreau Drive, Schaumburg, IL.
There is a $15 per day admission charge, a 3-day pass for $30, free for youth (17 and under), and free
for CSNS Members.
For details, refer to their website,
https://www.csns.org/ |
April |
26 |
CCC Meeting - 12pm at the CSNS Convention,
which is held at the Schaumburg Convention Center.
No admission charge for our meeting.
Featured Speaker - Mark Wieclaw on The Princess and the Saint |
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May |
14 |
CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - Joshua Benevento on to be determined |
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June |
11 |
CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - Lianna Spurrier on to be determined |
July |
9 |
CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - to be determined |
August |
13 |
CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - to be determined |
Chatter Matter
http://www.ChicagoCoinClub.org/
Contacting Your Editor / Chatter Delivery Option
chatter_editor@yahoo.com
The print version of the Chatter is simply a printout of the Chatter webpage,
with a little cutting and pasting to fill out each print page.
The webpage is available before the Chatter is mailed.
If you would like to receive an email link to the latest issue instead of a mailed print copy,
send an email to chatter_editor@yahoo.com.
You can resume receiving a mailed print copy at any time, just by sending another email.
Club Officers
Elected positions: |
Melissa Gumm | - President |
Deven Kane | - First V.P. |
Ray Dagenais | - Second V.P. |
William Burd | - Archivist |
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Directors: | Tyler Rossi
Mark Wieclaw
Carl Wolf
Steve Zitowsky |
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Appointed positions: |
John Riley | - Immediate Past President |
Scott McGowan | - Secretary |
Elliott Krieter | - Treasurer |
Paul Hybert | - Chatter Editor, webmaster |
Jeffrey Rosinia | - ANA Club Representative |
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Correspondence
All correspondence pertaining to Club matters
should be addressed to the Secretary and mailed to:
CHICAGO COIN CLUB
P.O. Box 2301
CHICAGO, IL 60690
Or email the Secretary at
Secretary.ChicagoCoinClub@GMail.com
Payments to the Club, including membership dues,
can be addressed to the Treasurer at the above
street address.
Payments
Renewing Members
Annual dues are $20 a year ($10 for Junior, under 18).
Annual Membership expires December 31 of the year through which paid.
Cash, check, or money order are acceptable (USD only please).
We do not accept PayPal.
Email your questions to
Treasurer.ChicagoCoinClub@GMail.com
Members can pay the Club electronically with Zelle™ using
their Android or Apple smart phone.
JP Morgan Chase customers can send payments to the Club via Quick Pay.
To see if your Bank or Credit Union is part of the Zelle™ Payments
Network, go to
https://www.zellepay.com
Please read all rules and requirements carefully.
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The Club has registered the Treasurer.ChicagoCoinClub@GMail.com address
with Zelle™ to receive payments.
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When you send a payment via Zelle™, we will receive
a notification.
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Be sure to fill out the “What’s this for?” field
– e.g., “Dues 2025”; or “Dues 2025 & 2026”
to pay for two years
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Once the transaction completes, the Club will receive your
payment typically within minutes, and you will know that
the payment was received.
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