Chatter


Volume 70 No. 9 September, 2024


Editor’s Notes

I hope you had a good time at the ANA’s WFoM in Rosemont this August. There are reports that a number of attendees tested positive for Covid after the show was over. The affected include local club members who volunteered during the show, out-of-town members who came in for the show, and even an ANA staff member.

Although some people have developed some tolerance towards Covid, Covid still packs a punch for those with underlying conditions. Please keep your masks handy, and take them with you when you go to any large gatherings.

Paul Hybert, editor


Minutes of the 1267th Meeting

Session I of the 1267th meeting of the Chicago Coin Club was called to order by President John Riley at 12:00PM CDT, Saturday August 10, 2024. This was an in-person only meeting held at the 2024 ANA World’s Fair of Money in Rosemont, Illinois. Attendance at the meeting was 47 in person and 2 guests, for a total of 49.

Club President John Riley called for an abbreviated meeting agenda due to being at the ANA convention. John welcomed all in attendance to the Chicago Coin Club meeting.

New Members

Secretary Scott McGowan announced the requirements for CCC membership. He announced six new membership applications received during the convention. After reading each name and noting that none were in attendance, the formal readings of the applications were tabled until the August Session II meeting.

No Old business was read due to abbreviated agenda.

New Business

  1. Marc C. Ricard announced he was donating many Numismatic awards of his father, Charles J. Ricard, to the Chicago Coin Club archives. Charles was a 54-year member of the Chicago Coin Club.
  2. John and Nancy Wilson have donated a large lot of vintage CCC souvenir cards, primitive money cards, bank note cards, and other items to the CCC archives.

Featured Program

Dr. Nathan T. Elkins, Deputy Director at the American Numismatic Society, on Coins and the Colosseum: How Coinage Illuminates the Greatest Amphitheater.

No Show & Tell due to the abbreviated agenda.

CCC board member Mark Wieclaw announced a souvenir card he produced for Session I of the 1267th meeting, to commemorate the twentieth ANA convention in Chicago. The souvenir card features images of the Ferris Wheel from the Columbian Exposition, the twenty annual dates of each ANA convention in Chicago with the obverse and reverse images of a coin from each convention year surrounding the card, a curved vignette border that resembles the arch of the Ferris Wheel, and an “XX” in each corner (representing 20). The meeting date, meeting number, and the Chicago Coin Club logo complete the souvenir card. The souvenir cards are each numbered with a limit of 75. Serial number 1/75 was given to the CCC archives and serial number 2/75 was presented to Dr. Nathan T. Elkins, the featured speaker, before meeting attendees each received a card.

Next meeting will be Wednesday, August 14, 2024, at 6:45pm at the Chicago Bar Association and online.

President John Riley recessed the meeting at 1:06pm CDT, until Wednesday, August 14, 2024.


Session II of the 1267th meeting of the Chicago Coin Club was called to order by President John Riley at 6:45PM CDT, Wednesday August 14, 2024. This was an in-person and online meeting held at the Chicago Bar Association. Attendance at the meeting in person was 12 members and one guest applying for membership, and online attendance of 22 members and four guests of which two applied for membership for a total of 38.

Club Meeting Minutes and Treasurer’s Report

The July meeting minutes were approved as published in the Chatter, both in print and on the CCC website. There was no July period treasurer’s report available for review at the meeting.

New Members

Secretary Scott McGowan completed the first membership application readings for three individuals: Lewis H. Heidenrich of Plantation, Florida with interests in Ancient Greek and Roman; Aditya Ashtekar of Wheeling, Illinois with interests in Ancient India Coinage; and Olivia Henderson of Chicago, Illinois with interests in US Type sets and Wheat cents. Four additional membership applications received during the ANA show were held until the applicants are in attendance at a club meeting.

Old Business

  1. Dale Lukanich reported that the 2024 ANA World’s Fair of Money was an overwhelming success, and thanked the host club committee members and volunteers for their hard work. He indicated that the ANA continued to be impressed with the CCC and their work to make the convention successful.
  2. Rich Lipman and Deven Kane reported there is limited capacity for the annual November club auction. Email Rich or Deven if you have items to be considered. There was no count available yet of how many items are in the auction to date.
  3. December banquet update: no price has been set, the space at Capri Italian Restaurant in Palos Heights, Illinois has been reserved.
  4. Committee reports: Hall of Fame committee, no update. Special Projects committee, no report. Legacy Project reported that interviews will resume in October; Dale Lukanich will meet with Lianna Spurrier to create the schedule for the next four to five interviews.

New Business

  1. Review of the Marc C. Ricard donation of many medals and awards of his father, Charles J. Ricard.
  2. John and Nancy Wilson donated a large lot of items to the CCC archives, and indicated any duplicates can be placed in the annual auction. The donation includes approximately 50 Primitive Money sheets, and 50 souvenir Bank Note cards, past banquet programs, and other past meeting souvenirs.
  3. John Kent announced that at the ILNA show in September there will be the opportunity for individuals to do educational exhibits in a room at the Tinley Park convention center on Thursday and Friday. On Saturday, ILNA will have youth education in the morning and a numismatic auction for the youth in the afternoon. The ILNA show is September 5-7, 2024 in Tinley Park, Illinois.

Featured Program

Melissa Gumm spoke on A Brief History of Commemorative Coins.

Show and Tell

Second Vice President Deven Kane announced there were seven Show and Tell presentations.

Next meeting will be Wednesday, September 11, 2024 at 6:45pm at the Chicago Bar Association and online. Club President John Riley indicated the Club will hold a brief remembrance for the events of 9/11/2001.

President John Riley adjourned the meeting at 8:39pm CDT.

Respectfully Submitted,
Scott A. McGowan, Secretary


Speaker’s Wor[l]d
Coins and the Colosseum: How Coinage Illuminates the Greatest Amphitheater

by Nathan T. Elkins,
presented to our August 10, 2024 meeting

Nathan Elkins, Deputy Director of the American Numismatic Society, started his presentation with a brief update on recent events at the American Numismatic Society prior to discussion of the main subject.

The Colosseum is the most famous monument of ancient Rome. The size, capacity, engineering techniques, amenities, and efficiencies of the building were described in some detail, and compared with modern stadiums, such as Soldier Field. The modern name of the building, “Colosseum,” has medieval origins and relates to the Colossus of Sol that stood next to it from the reign of Hadrian onwards. The amphitheater was further contextualized as a dynastic monument, in which all three Flavian emperors (Vespasian, Titus, and Domitian) had a hand.

The Colosseum sestertii of Titus and Domitian (for Divus Titus) are very rare, struck from only five obverse dies. This unusual rarity for a bronze coin may suggest they were struck for a special distribution. There are four variants of these coins: Colosseum flanked by S C, Colosseum flanked by the Meta Sudans to the right and the porticus of the Baths of Titus to the left, and Colosseum flanked by the Meta Sudans to the left and porticus of the Baths of Titus to the right, and the same as the last but with a new reverse design marking the deification of Titus after his death.

Extensive symbolism on the Colosseum coins relates to Flavian victory in the Jewish War. The reverse design shows Titus seated triumphantly among captured arms from the Jewish War, and details of an arch and quadriga group as one of the entrances are confirmed by the Haterius Relief and archaeological remains. Additionally, well-preserved coins show a statue group that resembles the Judaea Capta design on contemporary coins of Vespasian and Titus. The Colosseum’s connection with victory in the Jewish War is confirmed by a dedicatory inscription that says the Colosseum was built with the spoils of war, and other Flavian buildings in the vicinity celebrated Flavian victory in the Jewish War, e.g., the Arch of Titus and the Temple of Peace.

The Colosseum and the Colosseum coins also connected the new dynasty with well-remembered emperors of the past: Augustus and Claudius. The reverse design imitates a design on sestertii of Claudius marking his conquest of Britannia, and the Meta Sudans fountain that was built and featured on the coins recalls a fountain of similar form that Augustus built, but which Nero destroyed. A Flavian-era idea was that Vespasian’s construction of the Colosseum fulfilled a dream of Augustus. The façade of the amphitheater was reminiscent of Augustan-era theater buildings and the Colosseum also stood in the shadow of the Temple of the Deified Claudius, which Vespasian finished.

Public games in the ancient world always served a religious function, and this is true in the Colosseum. Contemporary coins of Titus also feature draped thrones that celebrated important gods in the Roman pantheon and also the deified emperors and empresses. These coins attest the presence of the gods and their images, which were carried in during a procession in the morning, to be placed on a special viewing platform to “watch” the games. A tunnel to a viewing platform directly across from the emperor’s viewing box, that seems to have connected with a building associated with the priests of the cult of Claudius, may have serviced this viewing platform. Comparative evidence from circuses, theaters, and amphitheaters outside of Rome attest the procession of images and attributes of gods to watch the games. Another coin showing a curule chair and crown indicates the presence of such a chair in the amphitheater to indicate the semi-divine presence of the living emperor, whether or not he was actually there. A prototype is the coins of Octavian showing the chair voted to Caesar after his death and deification.

Other coins also refer to the games. An elephant on gold and silver coins of Titus refers to the exhibition of elephants during the inaugural games, and the rhinoceros on coins of Domitian from some years later provides evidence that the poet Martial was actually describing Domitian’s early games, not the inaugural games, or that same rhinoceros appeared at shows in the amphitheater for several years after the inaugural games.

There is an unusual cluster of Colosseum coins found from around the area of modern Frankfurt am Main, Germany. Domitian’s relocation of the imperial court to Mainz, where he personally oversaw the invasion and conquest of this region a few years after the Colosseum was built, explains their presence here. In fact, a number of Flavian coins that circulated primarily in Rome and Italy are found here, showing that coins from that circulation pool came with the people who accompanied Domitian during this event.

The presentation concluded with some discussion of nineteenth-century papal medals that refer to preservation work to save the Colosseum from further collapse. The Colosseum was saved by Christian authorities because they believed that Christians were martyred there. While it is improbable Christians were martyred here, we owe much of the Colosseum’s preservation to these papal interventions. Today, the Colosseum endures as a symbol of ancient Rome and appears on the 5-cent piece for Italy. A good series of questions and discussion followed.


Speaker’s Wor[l]d
A Brief History of Commemorative Coins

by Melissa Gumm,
presented to our August 14, 2024 meeting

Preparation for tonight’s presentation began with a gift and was fortified with a raffle win and a find on a book shelf while packing. We have all been told before we start to collect it, “buy the book.” Most of us probably do not heed this suggestion and buy the things we like. I can't really say which came first, the book or the coins that encouraged this presentation. Initially I set out to speak on modern $5 gold commemorative coins, which was inspired by “the gift,” club member Kevin Dailey’s book on the topic. Kevin wrote his book out of necessity not popularity, creating a resource of interest for the few interested, and on the way hopefully piquing the interest of a few others.

My plan really fell off the rails with “the find,” a Red Book on United States Commemorative Coins, one of those things I never knew dad had. The introduction to the book starts with this quote “The unique position occupied by commemoratives in United States coinage is largely due to the fact that, with few exceptions, all commemorative coins have real historical significance. The progress and advance of people in the New World are presented in an interesting and instructive manner on the commemorative issues. Such a record of facts, artistically presented on gold and silver memorial issues, appeals strongly to the collector who favors the historical side of numismatics.”

What is a commemorative, then?

There is no one short and sweet answer; commemoratives have been popular since Ancient Greeks and Romans used them to spread the news of the day, tools of propaganda, records of important events, and to spread a ruler’s agenda. A commemorative in general is thought to be produced with the intention of creating a special souvenir to be sold at a premium above face value – to observe or memorialize an anniversary, special occasion, or event. These coins are not intended for circulation, have designs that differ from circulating coins, and with a face value of US legal tender.

Two Eras of US commemoratives: Classic and Modern

The Classic era, 1892 to 1954, extends from the World’s Columbian Exposition to the Booker T. Washington/George Washington Carver half dollar. If we ignore the above definition of a commemorative, the first US commemoratives were actually tokens and medals of the colonial era, spent in commerce, which today are highly prized numismatic rarities.

By definition the first official commemoratives were designed as souvenirs, not commemoratives, issued for the 1892/1893 World’s Colombian Exposition here in Chicago. Two coins were issued for that event, the Columbian half dollar and the Isabella quarter, the only quarter commemorative.

The half dollar was issued in celebration of the 400th anniversary Columbus’ voyage, a good reason to create a commemorative. The incentive was that the coin would help raise money for the exposition. Designed by Olin Lewis, the obverse features a bust of Columbus engraved by Charles Barber and the reverse features the Santa Maria above two hemispheres (by George Morgan).

The quarter was issued by the Board of Lady Managers for the same purpose, to raise money for the exposition. Charles Barber designed this coin; on the obverse we see the crowned bust of Queen Isabella I of Spain and on the reverse a kneeling female with a distaff and spindle as representation of women’s industry. Each was sold for $1; history tells us that sales of the coins fell far short of expectations.

There also is a lesser known coin, the 1848 $2.50 gold ¼ eagle that was intended to be a commemorative, and specifically was authorized as such. Created as requested from gold nuggets sent from California to the mint in Philadelphia, this coin was stamped with CAL on the reverse above the eagle. The estimated mintage was 1389 pieces, with three going to the collection of Chief engraver James B. Longacre.

Following the World’s Columbian Exposition were issues to celebrate several other National events; however, for these events, medals were issued, not coins.

The next commemoratives would begin in 1900 with the Lafayette Memorial silver dollar. This issue marked many firsts: first commemorative silver dollar, first legal tender coin depicting an American President, first coin depicting same person on both sides (Lafayette portrait and statue), and only commemorative struck using hand-made dies. The purpose of this issue was to raise funds for the erection of a statue of General Lafayette in Paris in connection with the 1900 Paris Exposition, as a gift from the US. The coin obverse features the heads of George Washington and General Lafayette, cheek to cheek, signifying their close relationship developed during the Revolutionary War. On the reverse we see an equestrian statue thought to reflect that which was to be erected in Paris: Lafayette in a pose of triumphal procession, not charging into battle.

The Classic era came to an end after much turmoil in 1954, with the issue of the Booker T. Washington/George Washington Carver half dollar. Issued in commemoration of the lives and accomplishments of Dr. George Washington Carver and Booker T. Washington, its obverse featured their portraits and the reverse a map of the United States (which omits Delaware). This issue was created, in part, by the melting of unsold Booker T. Washington half dollars. The profits of this new issue were to go to “oppose the spread of Communism among Negroes in the interest of national defense.” This was the time of McCarthyism and many felt Communist agents lurked everywhere.

At that time the Treasury Department was advised by Congress, unofficially, to declare commemoratives dead forever. However, over the years, the public came to miss legitimate commemoratives and letters were written making a plea for the return of commemoratives, many of these letters showing up in numismatic publications.

Over time, the conventional wisdom on the characteristics of a good commemorative coin program developed. Here are ten “commandments,” if you will.

Which brings us the Modern era that began in 1982 when the Treasury Department backed the issuance of the first commemorative since 1954. The first coin to be issued was a half dollar to commemorate the 250th anniversary of George Washington’s birth; distribution would be by the US Mint, not a commission or private individual; and profit would go to the Treasury Department and be applied to the national debit. The coin, made of 900 fine silver, was designed by Elizabeth Jones, chief sculptor and engraver of the Mint, featuring, on the obverse, George Washington astride a horse, and on the reverse the eastern facade of his home, Mount Vernon. Initially the coin was well received, with sales becoming sluggish toward the end.

Commemoratives for the 1984 Los Angeles Olympic games would follow, featuring two $1 silver coins and a $10 gold coin. This series originally began as a lofty 29-coin set. The initial coin was done in 1983, the first silver dollar commemorative since the Lafayette dollar in 1900, and in 1984, the most controversial issue of its time was produced. The 1983 coin obverse featured a representation of an Ancient Greek discus thrower and the reverse featured the head and upper body of an eagle, while the 1984 coin had the headless torsos at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum entrance on the obverse, and an eagle looking over its left wing on the reverse. The $10 gold coin was the first commemorative of its denomination, as well as the first of its denomination struck since 1933; two Olympic runners are seen holding aloft the Olympic torch on the obverse, and on the reverse is a modified version of the Great Seal of the United States.

The $5 gold commemoratives have a reeded edge, consist of a gold-copper alloy of 900:100, and were sold with a $35 surcharge. The required obverse details are Liberty, In God We Trust, and the current year; the required reverse details are E Pluribus Unum, the denomination, and The United States of America. The issuance of the $5 gold commemoratives began in 1986 with the 100th anniversary of the dedication of the Statue of Liberty in New York City harbor. This $5 coin was the only coin of the decade to sell its entire authorized quantity of just under 500,000. On the obverse we see the head of Liberty with a partial crown, giving the sense of standing at the base of the statue looking up at Liberty, who seems to be watching over the US. The reverse has an eagle descending as if ready to land amongst the huddled masses. The 100th anniversary of the Statue of Liberty was a huge national celebration, featuring a party in New York harbor on July 4th, 1986 at which President Ronald Reagan relit the torch as French President Francois Mitterrand watched. The Statue of Liberty-Ellis Island Foundation was the recipient of the surcharge funds; more than $83 million for restoration projects at these venues.

All $5 gold commemoratives have a reeded edge, consist of a gold-copper alloy of 900:100, and were sold with a $35 surcharge. The required obverse details are Liberty, In God We Trust, and the current year; the required reverse details are E Pluribus Unum, the denomination, and The United States of America.

1991 saw the commemoration of Mt Rushmore’s Golden Anniversary, on which we see a large eagle swooping down on Mt Rushmore, seen in the lower right corner, with a ribbon in its beak featuring the motto “In God We Trust” and holding a mason hammer in one claw and a chisel in the other. On the rather plain reverse is the text “Mount Rushmore National Memorial,” surrounded by required inscriptions. The 50th anniversary of the completion of this national monument near Keystone, South Dakota in the Black Hills was reason for celebration. Mt Rushmore features the 60-foot heads of four Presidents: George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt, and Abraham Lincoln, seen as symbolic of America/Americans. The original vision was not of Presidents but of famous Native American Chief Red Cloud, Western heroes Lewis and Clark, and Buffalo Bill. The surcharge was split between the US Treasury and the Mount Rushmore National Memorial Society of the Black Hills for use on improvements, enlargement, and renovation of the memorial.

The next three coins from 2014, 2019 and 2020 have a unique shape in common – they are all convex/concave. As unique as this may sound, it is not a new concept; in the 11th through 14th centuries, the Byzantine Empire minted coins in such a shape.

2014 saw the issuance of a coin in celebration of the 75th anniversary of the National Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, New York. The concave side features a modern fingered laced webbed ball glove with Liberty, the motto, and date all in the palm of the glove; on the convex side we see a baseball filling the entire coin. Planning for the hall began in 1935 with the intention of celebrating a believed baseball centennial in 1939. The Hall of Fame was established in 1936, yet we have no documented anniversary or father of baseball to set a date and celebrate.

2019 was the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11 and the first landing on the moon on July 20, 1969 – a momentous event in our nation’s history, fulfilling a monumental goal. On the obverse we see a vertical footprint with irregular horizontal treads, including disturbed lunar soil, as well as the four phases of the moon. On the reverse we see the picture taken by Neil Armstrong of Buzz Aldrin with the distorted image reflected in Buzz’s helmet, the convex form of the coin allows for one to imagine the curvature of the moon. The American flag and lunar lander can also be seen. Funds from this issue were split amongst the Smithsonian Institution’s National Air & Space Museum “Destination Moon” exhibit (50%), the Astronaut’s Memorial Fund (25%), and the Astronaut’s Scholarship Foundation (25%). The rising gold prices when this coin was issued caused a change in how the gold coin was priced as to be more in line with market prices – a floating scale was developed. Sales of this issue were also limited to one per household.

In 2020 a coin was issued for the Basketball Hall Of Fame featuring, on the obverse, three players with stretched arms reaching for the ball with fingertips touching the ball. A net fills the field as we view the two male, one in a wheelchair, and one female figures. The reverse shows a basketball going into the hoop. This commemoration was of the 60th anniversary of the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame, with the surcharge benefiting the Hall of Fame; oddly enough, the anniversary was actually in 2019.

Finally we conclude with one of only a few $10 gold coins issued as a commemorative – this one in honor of the Wright brothers’ 100th anniversary flight on December 17, 1903. This series of coins was seen as redundant with a lack of originality, as the half dollar, silver dollar, and $10 all had the same motif of the Wright brothers’ plane. Portraits of Orville and Wilbur can be seen on the obverse with their plane and an eagle overhead on the reverse. The surcharge benefited the First Flight Centennial Foundation, a private nonprofit founded in 1995.

What have we learned in the last 130 plus years when it comes to commemorative coin issues? That’s a great question with, to me, a simple answer which appears to be, “nothing.” History repeats itself. Historically, such programs continue to fall short of expectations with few exceptions being, of the classic era, the 1918 Illinois centennial and 1920 Maine centennial which sold out at 100,000 and 50,000 coins each respectively. In the modern era, the 1986 Statue of Liberty $5 gold coin did as well. Coins tend to be issued to commemorate unusual and irregular events that are even seen as unremarkable. Distribution issues have arisen during both eras, early on with private distribution and currently with the US Mint. Many issues have been seen to have designs that are unattractive, boring, and repetitive. Current surcharges can be seen as involuntary donations to organizations that one would not generally support, such as the Los Angeles organizing committee. In the case of the Hall of Fame coins, why is entrance fee not enough?

They do however have an upside in offering little pieces of history that offer an opportunity to learn something new and, in the case of $5 gold, make an investment in gold that is “pretty”.

Collect what interests you!

References:
Bowers, Q. David. A Guide Book of United States Commemorative Coins. Whitman Publishing. 2008. (The find.)
Dailey, Kevin. United States Modern Commemorative Five-Dollar Gold Coins. Rose Dog Books. 2021. (The gift.)
Swiatek, Anthony and Walter Breen. The Encyclopedia of United States Silver & Gold Commemorative Coins 1892 to 1954. Arco Publishing. 1981. (The raffle win.)


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Show and Tell

Items shown at our August 14, 2024 meeting,
reported by Deven Kane.

  1. Noah Graf showed two tiny Sicilian coins.
    1. A bronze Follaro of King Tancred and his son Roger III (1191-1193 AD, attributed to Messina). The medieval Kingdom of Sicily from the late 11th through the late 12th centuries was a fascinating cultural pastiche of Greek Christian, Arabic Muslim, and Latin Christian influences – the result, successively, of Byzantine rule after the fall of the Western Roman Empire, followed by two centuries of Arab Muslim rule, followed by what is often called “The Other Norman Conquest,” this one by northern French mercenary crusaders who reintroduced Latin Christian culture in Sicily for the first time in 600 years. The obverse has the name of King Tancred in Arabic script, well centered on this example, with the text nicely brought out by the patination. The reverse shows the text ROGERIUS REX in Latin text; the word REX is the central element, surrounded by the ruler’s name. The reverse of this example is in relatively poorer shape, and Noah is considering whether a additional light cleaning could better bring out the text.
    2. A silver/billon Denaro of the Holy Roman Emperor Henry VI and his wife Constance I as King and Queen of Sicily (1194-1197 AD, attributed to Brindisi). In 1189, King William II of Sicily died without children or surviving siblings. His heir was his aunt Constance, who was married to the Holy Roman Emperor Henry VI, a member of the German Hohenstaufen dynasty. To prevent the succession of a foreign house, King William’s ministers and a portion of the nobility led a coup in favor of Tancred, King William’s cousin who was illegitimate but who also was the nearest adult male of the Norman lineage. Henry and Constance went to war to enforce her rights to the Sicilian throne, and succeeded after five years of war. When the Imperial dynasty took over the government of Sicily, the hybrid Greek-Muslim-Latin culture was gradually suppressed. That is visible on this coin, which no longer has any element of Arabic, despite being struck only a few years after the above coin of Tancred. This is a purely Western European medieval coin. On the obverse, the central element is a cross with two stars in two of the quarterings, surrounded by the text •H•INPERATOR, for Henry. The reverse gives credit to Constance as an equal co-ruler, with the text •C•INPERATRIX. The central element on the reverse contains the text AP, joined by a Latin scribal contraction – on later rulers’ coins, these letters are usually an abbreviation or monogram of the ruler’s name, but here the meaning is unclear. This is an uncommonly fully-struck and well-centered example of the type.
  2. Bob Feiler showed two items.
    1. A silver plated proof coin from Ascension Island, honoring the Chicago ANA World’s Fair of Money. Bob had to stand in line on the bourse floor to receive a voucher, which entitled him to later acquire this piece from a booth on the bourse floor. He was too busy to do this on the first day it was offered, but things worked out on a later day. The design has an eagle flying over The Bean (Cloudgate, in downtown Chicago) while holding a rose in its claws (referencing Rosemont).
    2. A box thaler made from two coins of the imperial city of Besançon, France, issued in 1663 to commemorate the centenary of the death of Emperor Charles V, which had occurred on September 21, 1558. The obverse shows Charles V in full-length, crowned and armored, holding orb and scepter. The reverse shows the crowned imperial eagle with a shield of the city arms on breast.
  3. Deven Kane showed four medals, bought because he liked their designs.
    1. A French silver medal awarded by the Council of the Republic, which was the French national government formed after World War II (also known as the Fourth Republic). Awarded in 1958 to Senator Jean Brajeux (1895-1990) of Eure, the medal is made of 950-fine silver, weighs 65.54 grams, and is 49.5mm in diameter. Jean Brajeux had been mobilized in 1915, and was seriously wounded in 1918. In 1919 he was admitted to the National Agronomic Institute, later becoming an agricultural engineer. Mobilised again in 1939 as a reserve captain, he was assigned to the staff of the Sixth Army. Demobilized in July 1940, he returned to Evreux. Arrested by the Germans in June 1944, he was transferred to Fresnes, then liberated when the Allied forces entered Paris. After having been a municipal councillor, he joined the Council of the Republic, serving from 1957 until 1958.
    2. A bronze unawarded medal for music, from 1907. It has a heterogeneous brown patina, and shows wear on high reliefs. The obverse shows a standing woman, playing a violin, with a young woman sitting at a piano. The reverse has a pastoral scene of a seated man, playing a double flute, at the foot of a laurel tree with a laureate woman at his side.
    3. An 1896 silver medal from Geneva, Switzerland for Great Shot at the National Exhibition. Deven likes the great obverse of this shooting medal, but finds the reverse to be boring and busy. The obverse shows a woman from the front, shooting a bow, in a mountain setting. The reverse has a crowned eagle protecting the shield on a key, with a ribbon inscribed UN-POUR-TOUS-TO-POUR-UN (one for all, all for one); and two crossed rifles and a sun in the background. The medal is 47mm in diameter and weighs 46.05 grams.
    4. A silver medal given to civic militiamen to celebrate the end of the Undertakers riots of 1696. Following the passage of a law which planned to cut the number of men working as undertakers from 300 to 72, the undertakers spread rumors that the city’s poor would no longer be able to expect proper burials. The ensuing riot grew from just the poor to the city’s sailors as well, with unruly crowds attacking the homes of the various civic leaders. The riot was eventually quelled, but only after a number of deaths among the city’s elite. On one side, Neptune stands in a chariot pulled by two horses and rising up from a rough, wind-blown sea; the other side shows a radiant sun rising over calmer sea, upon which a bird’s nest floats.
  4. Mark Wieclaw showed what he had bought on his summer vacation – a pair of antoninianii of Gallienus, and a group of Greek coins.
    1. A silvered bronze antoninianus of Gallienus (253-268 AD) weighing 4.48 grams. It is quite well centered on both sides, with the beaded border well clear of the edge.
    2. Maybe a double Antoninianus of Gallienus? It weighs 6.38 grams and is 22mm in diameter. The reverse shows an antelope walking to the right, with XI in the exergue; struck with a reverse clashed die.
    3. Four Greek coins with a facing bust on the obverse: facing bust of Sibyla on a bronze coin from Troas; facing bust of Athena on a bronze coin from Syria (281-262BC); female bust facing slightly to left on coin from Cilicia; and a facing bust of Arethustra on coin from Tarsos (378-372BC).
    4. A silver 1⁄12 stater from Lycia (420-400BC), featuring a helmeted head of Athena in profile, with a full helmet crest on the coin.
    5. To show how small these five Greek coins are, a picture of all five arranged on top of a US Morgan silver dollar, with room to spare! The lightest of the coins weighs only 0.70 grams, and the smallest is only 8.5mm in diameter.
  5. As an appendix to his presentation on the Soho Mint in May, Laurence Edwards showed three Soho productions commissioned by the French bankers and “venture capitalists” of the late 18th century, the Monneron Brothers. A Huguenot family tracing back to at least 1550, they made a fortune in the Indian Ocean trade, and sat in the National Assembly in 1790. These pieces of necessity money were intended to ease the coinage shortage then current in France, and their technical and aesthetic quality was much superior to the base metal issues produced by official sources. A law of 3 May 1792 forbade the production of money by private concerns; in September a decree forbade the commercialization of confidence-coins. These necessity coins were in circulation until the end of 1793.
    1. A coint depicting a scene from the Fete de la Federation, a celebration of the first anniversary of the fall of the Bastille. It looks like a medal, but carries the denomination of 5 sols, so the intention was to circulate.
    2. A medal commemorating the ceremony in which King Louis XVI accepted the new constitution. In the first years following the revolution of July 14, 1789, the expectation was that France would become a constitutional republic, with the King as chief executive. No guillotines yet.
    3. A 2 sols coin celebrating “Liberty Under the Law.”
    Boulton was eager to find business for his new mint. He had contacts in France, and the Monneron Brothers had done extensive trading with Britain. Boulton hoped that the new French government might buy his equipment, or commission him for their new coinage. The Monneron Brothers hoped that their business interests would survive in the new order. Neither came to pass.
  6. Tyler Rossi showed the highest denomination note from the fourth series of Bosnia and Herzegovina, a 1000000 dinara noted dated January 1994. This type is cataloged as Pick33a. Issued during the siege of Sarajevo, some counterfeits were contemporary while others were made later, for collectors.
  7. Jim Ray talked about sharing coins and more with his daughter.
    1. At his first Chicago Coin Club meeting, there was a presentation about a medal honoring Sybil Ludington. He was shocked that he had never heard about that history; so he researched it, purchased a medal off of eBay, and sent the medal to his daughter.
    2. While his daughter was studying for a semester in Rome, she found a stamp and coin combo to send to Jim. She then told Jim about the stained glass and paintings in the Vatican.
    3. For her graduation, Jim gave her a silver CHRISTA MCAULIFFE (I Teach) commemorative dollar because she is studying to become a university professor.
    4. They now are exchanging books. He showed us Mouments in Miniature, Architecture on Roman Coinage by Nathan T. Elkins, who spoke at the CCC meeting at the ANA convention. Jim’s very first conversation combining Art History and Numismatics with my daughter was at Baylor University, when they were meeting with her Art History Professor, Nathan T. Elkins.

Reminders:


Minutes of the Chicago Coin Club Board

August 21, 2024

CCC President John Riley called the meeting to order at 6:02pm CDT. In attendance were John Riley, Melissa Gumm, Deven Kane, Paul Hybert, Scott McGowan, Mark Wieclaw, Rich Lipman, Bill Burd, Elliott Krieter, Steve Zitowsky, and Ray Dagenais. Excused was Carl Wolf; Absent was Jeff Rosinia

Old Business

President John Riley thanked the ANA host club committee and volunteers for their hard work in representing CCC at the 2024 ANA World’s Fair of Money. Treasurer Elliott Krieter explained that reimbursements for the convention expenses exceeded the ANA stipend by $894.00 and sought board approval for the funds to do reimbursements. A motion was made to use $894.00 from the CCC treasury for the reimbursements, subject to club approval. The motion was passed to go to the club for approval at the September club meeting.

The board discussed the CCC-NYNC dinner at the ANA convention. It was well received with the added comments that better interclub mixing of the seating would make it even better for socializing with new numismatic friends. It was mentioned that NYNC had requested tables held, due to some members’ later arrivals from another numismatic event. Several options were discussed to better mix the attendees. It was decided to revisit this topic in the February 2025 meeting for planning a CCC-NYNC dinner at the 2025 WFoM in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.

Scott McGowan reported on the Legacy committee, that interviews will begin again in October with Dale Lukanich scheduling 4-5 new interviews.

Mark Wieclaw reported on the Special Projects committee, that he will pick a date to schedule a committee meeting to discuss projects to use a portion of the treasury. Mark will get the meeting date to the secretary to set up the Webex call. As an offshoot of the Special Projects discussion at a CCC meeting, club member Noah Graf had inquired about why a portion of the treasury isn’t in some modest investment. The board voted at a past meeting to have treasurer research this. Treasurer Elliott Krieter indicated he would talk with Chase bank about shifting a portion of the treasury to a CD or Money Market account. Special Projects committee, of Mark, Jeff Rosinia, Rich Lipman, Carl Wolf, and Elliott Krieter, will then meet to move forward.

Deven Kane reported that the Hall of Fame committee has received one submission and is open to additional submissions from club members. The Chicago Coin Club Hall of Fame uses two criteria for consideration: general involvement in Numismatics on the state, regional, and national level at large; and involvement in the Chicago Coin Club.

The board selected a nominations committee to propose the new slate of officers for the 2025 year. The committee is Mark Wieclaw, Bill Burd, and Rich Lipman. Board positions for election are President, First VP, Second VP, and four director positions.

Mention was made of the CCC-NYNC symposium. CCC has a presenter selected. At this time, the symposium depends on NYNC decision on potential dates, topics, and presenter.

Bill Burd reported on the status of the remaining 100th Anniversary copper medals. Harlan Berk sold three of their 10, and will return the remaining seven for club sale at shows. Due to Carl Wolf’s absence, we still need to tally the medal sales at the 2024 ANA show. Bill Burd has three medals that have spots on them that could be sold at a discount or put in the auction.

First Vice President Melissa Gumm reported on meeting featured speakers, stating that September and October are filled, November has no speaker, and December will be a “Year in Review” presentation that she and Scott McGowan are working on. Melissa is starting to look for speakers for 2025 meetings, and it was mentioned that Dennis Tucker would be good to approach for a presentation.

New Business

Rich Lipman and Deven Kane reported on the 2024 November Auction, indicating having 35 lots out of a potential 60 lots. Board members John Riley and Steve Zitowsky mentioned having items for the auction. Bill Burd created two auction lots from the materials donated by John and Nancy Wilson, being 21 Primitive Money sheets and 11 CCC Currency Sheets.

December 2024 Banquet at Capri Ristorante Italiano in Palos Heights. The dinner will be $45 per person with cocktails at 6:00pm, Dinner at 7:00pm, and meeting at 8:00pm; the meeting include new officer election, awards, Cabeen award, and a presentation.

The board discussed the recent donations to the CCC archives from Marc C. Ricard, of his father’s awards and medals, and from John and Nancy Wilson, of CCC souvenir cards and exonumia. The list of the Ricard donation will be published after receipt, to indicate the item type, i.e. medal, plaque, ribbon medal, embedded plaque medal, etc. The board discussed future donations to be reviewed for acceptance for considerations of space, duplicates, and club relation. Bill Burd mentioned that several pieces from the Wilson donation were put into the archives.

The board discussed the new Great American Coin and Collectibles Show coming in 2025 to Rosemont, Illinois. The CCC board does not plan to participate at the show.

The board discussed CCC participation in the 2024 ILNA show in September, 2024; due to staffing and timing, we will not have a table. Scott McGowan to reach out to Jim Ray at ILNA to advise.

The board discussed a new wireless microphone/speaker for meetings. Deven Kane indicated that the issue today is the complex combination of the iPad, speaker, projector, and overhead coin viewer connections. He indicated we may be better served with a laptop computer based system. Mark Wieclaw commented that this is one area he plans to address with the Special Projects committee, to spend money to make our online meetings so enjoyable that everyone wants to attend.

Mark Wieclaw called for a committee for the Medal of Merit review and selection. Mark Wieclaw, Deven Kane, and Steve Zitowsky volunteered for the committee.

Mark Wieclaw brought up the updating of the CCC website, to bring it current. Notably, the list of Medal of Merit, Club officers, ANA conventions, and other recent news of the CCC.

John Riley adjourned the meeting at 7:25 pm, CDT.

2024 Future Board Meetings: November 20, 2024.

Respectfully Submitted,
Scott A. McGowan, Secretary


Our 1268th Meeting

Date: September 11, 2024
Time: 6:45PM CDT (UTC-05:00)
Location: Downtown Chicago
At the Chicago Bar Association, 321 S. Plymouth Court, 3rd or 4th floor meeting room. Please remember the security measures at our meeting building: everyone must be prepared to show their photo-ID and register at the guard’s desk.
Online: For all the details on participating online in one of our club meetings, visit our Online Meeting webpage at www.chicagocoinclub.org/meetings/online_meeting.html. Participation in an online meeting requires some advance work by both our meeting coordinator and attendees, especially first-time participants. Please plan ahead; read the latest instructions on the day before the meeting! Although we try to offer a better experience, please be prepared for possible diifficulties.
Featured Program: Len AugsburgerI Owned a Gobrecht Dollar for Five Minutes
Len Augsburger tells the story of a Gobrecht dollar that was saved since the time of issue in a single family. In 2010, the coin was mistakenly sold as the family settled an estate. The coin disappeared into the marketplace as the family discovered previously unknown documents related to the coin. Could the coin and the documents be reunited?

Important Dates

Unless stated otherwise, our regular monthly CCC Meeting is in downtown Chicago, and also online, on the second Wednesday of the month; the starting time is 6:45PM CT.

September 5-7 ILNA 2023 Annual Coin & Currency Show at the Tinley Park Convention Center, 18451 Convention Center Drive, Tinley Park, Illinois 60477. Details, including hours and events, are available at http://www.ilnaclub.org/show.html
September 11 CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - Len Augsburger on I Owned a Gobrecht Dollar for Five Minutes
October 9 CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - James McMenamin on The Ubiquitous “H”
November 13 CCC Meeting - Club Auction - no featured speaker
November 20 CCC Board Meeting - online only - contact club secretary for access instructions.
December 11 CCC Meeting - Annual Banquet - details to be announced

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Club Officers

Elected positions:
John Riley- President
Melissa Gumm- First V.P.
Deven Kane- Second V.P.
William Burd- Archivist
Directors:Ray Dagenais
Mark Wieclaw
Carl Wolf
Steve Zitowsky
Appointed positions:
Richard Lipman- Immediate Past President
Scott McGowan- Secretary
Elliott Krieter- Treasurer
Paul Hybert- Chatter Editor, webmaster
Jeffrey Rosinia- ANA Club Representative

Correspondence

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CHICAGO COIN CLUB
P.O. Box 2301
CHICAGO, IL 60690

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