Volume 68 No. 12 December, 2022

2023 CCC Dues are Due

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Members who do not pay by March 31, 2023 will be dropped.

Minutes of the 1246th Meeting

The 1246th meeting of the Chicago Coin Club was called to order by President Lyle Daly at 6:45 PM CST, Wednesday November 9, 2022. This was a hybrid in-person and online meeting. Attendance at the meeting was 19 in person and 13 online, for a total of 32.

Club Meeting Minutes and Treasurer’s Report

The October 2022 meeting minutes were approved as published in the Chatter, both in print and on the CCC website.

Treasurer Elliott Krieter submitted the treasurer’s report for both the September and October periods. September period income of $8,270.00 (ANA stipend, Dues, Banquet), expenses of $8,936.52 (ANA expenses, Joint dinner expense, Chatter expense) for a period total of -$666.52. October period income $595.00 (Dues, Banquet), and expenses of $118.00 (Chatter expense, Engravings) for a net gain of $477.00.

Guests and New Members

One guest was announced, Tyler M. Rossi, who also applied for club membership. The second reading for new member applicant, and Young Numismatist, Adhitri Seth was read and the Club approved her membership. A first reading was completed for Tyler M. Rossi, who collects ancient and pre-modern world coins.

Old Business

  1. Banquet Committee: Elliott Krieter advised December Banquet currently has 18 commitments. More payments arriving daily. Reminder: dinner location is Coopers Hawk in Arlington Heights. 6:00pm start time. Cost is $55/person in advance, $65/person at the door. Mark Borckardt will speak on Handling Million Dollar Rarities: Another Day at the Office.
  2. 2023 Club Officer Nominating Committee – as stated in the November Chatter.
  3. 1250 Committee – Bob Feiler advised a $500 deposit was paid in anticipation of overstriking an estimated 50-60 silver Eagle coins (2023-dated) as supplied by Chicago Coin Company. The overstamp will be reminiscent of the project from the 1950s, which saw overstrikes on Mexican silver peso coins. Anticipated cost per overstamped Eagle will be approximately $60.

New Business

There was no new business brought before the club.

There was no show and tell at this meeting due to the annual auction being the Featured Program.

The next meeting will be on December 14, 2022, at 6:00pm CST, and will be the annual club banquet taking place at Coopers Hawk Restaurant in Arlington Heights, Illinois. There will be no online component of the meeting.

Lyle Daly adjourned the meeting at 8:07pm CST.

Respectfully Submitted,
Scott A. McGowan, Secretary

Auction Results
November 9, 2022

These are the realized prices for the lots listed in the November Chatter.

11 $15.00
21 $20.00
31 $75.00

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Minutes of the Chicago Coin Club Board

November 16, 2022

The meeting was called to order by club President Lyle Daly at 6:02pm.

Board members present for the meeting were Lyle Daly, Melissa Gumm, Elliott Krieter, Scott McGowan, Paul Hybert, Mark Wieclaw, Steve Zitowsky, Carl Wolf, Deven Kane, Bill Burd, John Riley, and Rich Lipman. Absent was Jeff Rosinia.

Old Business:

  1. Lyle reported on the Legacy Project that Lianna Spurrier at the Newman Numismatic Portal (NNP) will provide tech for the Zoom interviews. First interviewee will be Mark Wieclaw, and Dale Lukanich will ask the questions. We are also waiting on a background image for Zoom. Interviews start in December. NNP’s expense to do video is approximately $75.00 each. The board discussed and voted to donate to NNP for the costs and to send in two separate donations for five interviews each.
  2. 1250 meeting reported Bob Feiler working on the counterstamp with North American Medals. Bill Burb and Mark Wieclaw to meet to discuss banquet idea and options for March 2023 meeting.
  3. Report on Directors and Officers (D&O) insurance. John Riley asked if CCC had this in the past and Carl Wolf replied he thought we did years ago. John will send insurance quotes from Liberty, CAN, and Hartford for review. General feeling was that, given the club’s presence at many shows and also ownership of equipment, it makes sense to have coverage.
  4. NYNC Symposium discussion: Should we form a committee to handle the proposed symposium, perhaps ask CCC members who also are NYNC members to be involved. Lyle Daly and John Riley offered to work on this.

New Business:

  1. Dues discussion: Club dues is $20.00 annually. Board discussed how we should handle memberships that start mid-year. January-June membership $20, July-October membership $10, November-December membership $20 that will pay through December the following year.
  2. Future locations discussion for banquet celebrations: It was discussed and recommended that we set a limit for all events, offer tickets to club members only then three weeks prior to the event open ticket sales to non-members. All reservations must be paid to be considered firm. No refunds will be given unless the space is resold.
  3. Discussions about the CCC funds on deposit. Club member(s) have inquired why the club has funds in the bank and is not doing anything with it. Options were proposed to have club members make proposals for spending the treasury. The possibility of establishing a committee to review and consider what we want to do with idle cash. Some recommendations were ANA summer seminar scholarships, assist writers publish numismatic books.
  4. Coins for As Program. Discussion of offering a Coins for As program for Young Numismatists. This program would reward YNs with coins for getting As on their school report cards. Recommendation to establish this program with the following details…
    1. Club to receive copy of YNs report card.
    2. YN is sent coins for each A.
    3. YN should research the coin and report back to club about it. Report would be 1-2 sentences about what they learned.
  5. The Chatter’s Important Dates section includes Meetings and Upcoming Shows at which CCC has a table. Should we open this up to additional information such as commercial shows, nearby club shows. The Board agreed to list commercial shows in the Chatter.
  6. 2023 Auction: Bill Burd reported we have an individual who will submit 40+ items for the auction; they are mostly CCC related, including many medals in copper and silver. Bill also indicated we have several numismatic books: nine from Saul Needleman and 25 from Phil Carrigan estates. Need to decide what to do with these. Recommendations of give to ANA summer seminar, take to local shows and club meetings, give to YNs at shows – with the Estates’ permission.
  7. Update on the 100th Anniversary medals. Bill Burd reported we have 29 Copper medals available. Three medals however have some visible spotting on them.
  8. Melissa Gumm indicated that we need a supply of all club forms, including membership forms and show and tell forms, at the Chicago Bar Association for availability when board members responsible for the forms are not in attendance at club meetings.
  9. Mark Wieclaw offered a Thank You and Great Job to club President Lyle Daly with all the virtual board meetings.

Next CCC Board Meeting February 15, 2023 at 6:00pm CST; online versus in-person to be determined.

President Lyle Daly adjourned the meeting at 7:43pm.

Respectfully Submitted,
Scott A. McGowan, Secretary

Our 1247th Meeting

Date: December 14, 2022, Annual Banquet Meeting (reservations are required) In-person only.
Time: 6:00PM Cocktails (cash bar), with complementary hors d’oeuvres.
7:00PM to 10PM Dinner and Meeting
Location:Cooper’s Hawk Restaurant, 798 W. Algonquin Road, Arlington Heights, IL 60006 (847) 981-0900. It is a couple miles east of Route 53 and 10 minutes from the Arlington Heights commuter train station; some members living in the area mentioned being willing to offer rides to those taking the train.
Details: The cost is $55 if paid by December 2; $65 if paid later, including at the banquet. Early commitments and payments are greatly appreciated – reservations are required. Our group will be meeting in their Barrel Room, which can accommodate 80 people. There will be a private cash bar in the room for those wanting an alcoholic beverage. Make your reservation by mailing your check (payable to Chicago Coin Club) to P.O. Box 2301, Chicago, IL 60690; or by paying electronically (see the Chatter Matter section for details).
• Our dinner will start off with a Crab & Lobster Bisque soup, followed by a Caesar Salad.
• The plated dinner will be Filet Beef Medallions and Dana’s Parmesan Crusted Chicken, with Mary’s potatoes and asparagus.
• Dessert choices are Salted Caramel Crème Brûlée and Key Lime pie.
Parking: There is a large free parking lot attached.
Program: The speaker is Mark Borckardt, on Handling Million Dollar Rarities: Another Day at the Office.
In a 33-year numismatic auctions career, and in his 42nd year as a full-time professional numismatist, Chicago Coin Club member Mark Borckardt has handled many of the most fabled rarities of our time. A life-long collector, Mark will share many adventures (and the occasional mis-adventure!) involving the highest end of numismatics and the not-so-high end. As the popular insurance commercial goes, Mark “has seen a thing or two” in the coin business!
Agenda: Award Presentations.
Election of Club Officers.

Important Dates

Unless stated otherwise, our regular monthly CCC Meeting is in downtown Chicago and also online on the second Wednesday of the month; the starting time is 6:45PM CT.

December 14 CCC Meeting - Annual Banquet - Featured Speaker - Mark Borckardt on Handling Million Dollar Rarities: Another Day at the Office
At Cooper’s Hawk Restaurant, 798 W. Algonquin Road, Arlington Heights, IL 60006 (847) 981-0900. The cost is $55 per person before December 2, and $65 thereafter. Early commitments and payments are greatly appreciated – reservations are required. In-person only.
January 11 CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - Steve Feller on Stagecoach and Post Office Scrip of the American Civil War
February 8 CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - Robert Leonard on Latin Imitations of Hyperpyra of John III Vatatzes – Byzantine Gold and the Egos of Princes
February 26 Will County Coin Club Show, to be held at the Weitendorf Ag Ed Center (Joliet Junior College), 17840 W. Laraway Road in Joliet, Illinois.
March 2-4 ANA’s National Money Show at Phoenix, Arizona. Details at
March 8 CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - Eduardo Garcia-Molina on Research Experience at the American Numismatic Society: Unraveling Seleucid Empire Mysteries
April 12 CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - to be announced
April 27-29 84th Anniversary Convention of the Central States Numismatic Society at the Schaumburg Renaissance Hotel & Convention Center, 1551 North Thoreau Drive, Schaumburg, IL. There is a $5 per day admission charge, a 3-day pass for $10, and (maybe) free admission for CSNS Life Members. For details, refer to their website,
April 29 CCC Meeting - 1pm at the CSNS Convention, which is held at the Schaumburg Convention Center. No admission charge for our meeting.
Featured Speaker - to be announced

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Club Officers

Elected positions:
Lyle Daly- President
John Riley- First V.P.
Melissa Gumm- Second V.P.
William Burd- Archivist
Directors:Deven Kane
Mark Wieclaw
Carl Wolf
Steve Zitowsky
Appointed positions:
Richard Lipman- Immediate Past President
Scott McGowan- Secretary
Elliott Krieter- Treasurer
Paul Hybert- Chatter Editor, webmaster
Jeffrey Rosinia- ANA Club Representative


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P.O. Box 2301

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