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Volume 60 No. 11 November 2014

Minutes of the 1150th Meeting

The 1150th meeting of the Chicago Coin Club was held October 8, 2014 in the Chicago Bar Association Building, 321 S. Plymouth Court, Downtown Chicago. President Elliott Krieter called the meeting to order at 6:45 PM with an attendance of 25 members and 5 guests: Ed Kedzie, Loren R. Miller III, Larry Dora, Dr. Leon Saryan, and Jeff Paunicka.

A motion was passed to accept the September Minutes as published in the Chatter. Treasurer Steve Zitowsky gave a detailed report for the month of September: revenue of $855.00, expenses of $630.95, net income of $224.05, total assets of $24,278.96 held in Life Membership $2,110.00 and member equity $21,168.96. A motion was passed to accept the report.

The applications for membership of Howard Kryse and Dr. Lawrence Lee received second reading and a motion was passed to accept them into the Club. The applications of Dr. Leon Saryan, Jeffrey Paunicka and E.J (Ed) Kedzie received first reading.


First V.P. Richard Lipman introduced the featured speaker, Dr. Leon Saryan, Milwaukee, WI who spoke on Pre-Coinage Money in Armenia. Following a question and answer period, Dr. Saryan was presented with an ANA Educational Certificate and an engraved Club medal suspended from a neck ribbon.

Second V.P. Marc Stackler introduced the evening’s 10 exhibitors. RICHARD LIPMAN: world bank notes, First-Spouse gold coins, and 9-11 U.S. Mint medal; EUGENE FREEMAN: Philippines 1883/2 ten centimes, and the recently awarded Numismatic Ambassador medal and plaque which generated a warm round of applause; STEVE ZITOWSKY: 2 ancient coins from the southern Arabian coast; PHIL CARRIGAN: 3 1976 Ottawa Coin Club medals; ROBERT LEONARD: books recently acquired on Denmark’s money, and coins related to St. Edmund, English King of East Anglia (855-870 AD); JAMES MC MENAMIN: 7 French “sou” coins derived from the Roman “solidus”; MARK WIECLAW: worn pocket coins, the 2014 ANA Convention exhibitors medal, and ancient Roman antoninus of Volusian (251-253 AD) with a reverse meant for his father’s coinage; DEVEN KANE: coins from ancient Macedonia, Celtic Britain, 13th century France, the Seljuks of Rum, and the Dirham of Khans of Persia; ROBERT FEILER: 1995 Turks & Caicos 5 crowns; and Dr. Leon Saryan: 3 Armenian cancelled checks.

The meeting was adjourned at 9:21 PM.

Respectfully Submitted,
Carl Wolf, Secretary

Speaker’s Wor[l]d
Pre-Coinage Money in Armenia

a presentation by Dr. Leon Saryan,
to our October 8, 2014 meeting

To set the stage for his talk on pre-coinage money in Armenia, Dr. Saryan first showed us maps of historical Armenia, to help us locate it and its neighbors, and then he showed us examples of coinage from the Armenian lands. On a map of the Persian Empire (about 500 BC) and Alexander the Great (about 325 BC), Armenia is located south of, and inland from, the south-east corner of the Black Sea; the land to its south is marked Mesopotamia. The second map showed the Armenian Empire at its zenith under Tigran the Great (95-66 BC), when it, including its vassal states, reached from the southwest Caspian Sea, to the southeast Black Sea, to the eastern Mediterranean; which placed it between the Parthian Empire to the east and the Roman Empire to the west. The final map shows contemporary landlocked Armenia with Turkey to the west, Iran to the south, Azerbaijan to the east, and Georgia to the north. The area has been inhabited continuously since the early Stone Age. It is located at a crossroad of the ancient world, making it important in commerce and trade. It is montainous, with mineral, plant, and animal resources.

Ancient Greek coins have been found in excavations; these first signs of coinage on Armenian territory are dated to the sixth and fifth centuries BC. The first locally issued coins were bronze coins with a royal portrait, from the third and second centuries BC; locally issued silver coins soon followed. We saw a silver drachm of Tigranes the Great (with Greek legends), and then a Roman denarius of Augustus with an ARMENIA CAPTA reverse. We even saw some medieval coins of Armenia, with legends written in the Armenian alphabet. But enough with the background information, here comes the pre-coinage money!

In the development of trade, the first stage was barter — the direct exchange of goods. Unlike plant and animal goods that quickly decay, the remnants of obsidian tools provide us with abundant material from long ago. Obsidian is a natural volcanic glass that can be shaped to have sharp edges. It is very abundant at hundreds of sites in the Armenian highlands, and evidence shows it was made into cutting and scraping tools before 12,000 BC. The use of obsidian tools increased the rate at which progess was being made. The sophistication of the produced implements increased over time, and obsidian tools found in archaeological digs outside of Armenia use obsidian that originated in Armenia.

Cooper and its alloys were another important item. Early copper implements found in western Armenia have been dated to about 9,000 BC, and excavations at Medzamor yielded 24 smelters that were dated to the 3,000 to 1,000 BC era. Copper, either as tools or as ingots of refined metal, was another trade good that was sourced in a few areas but used in many; its use further increased the speed of progress.

The next stage in the development of trade used some uncoined medium to help exchange goods. Much of this is speculation based mostly on the archaeological eveidence. The keys to look for here are many items of a particular value, or some relative values between different items. Unlike goods made from plants or animals, items made of obsidian and metals could be kept, or handled, for years without losing value. One possible scheme could be based upon arrow heads, spear heads, and axe heads. A more developed scheme would be based solely upon the weights of the items, so that the weight of some item would be one of a small number of values; or that the weight of every item is some integer multiple of the smallest’s weight.

Other items that are found at archaeological sites from 2,000 to 1,000 BC are cowrie shells and cattle shin-bones. Cowrie shells are from along the coast of the Indian Ocean, and arrived in trade. They are of a single size, and have certain physical characteristics. They are found in tombs from the era, and we know they were used as a medium of exchange elsewhere in Asia. Some experts conjecture that the cattle toe-bones and carved shin-bones found in tombs might have replaced actual cattle as a medium of exchange. Some wonder if the bones might have been used as gaming pieces.

We saw some bronze rings that were discovered in tombs excavated near copper mines in the 1880s; they were date to 1200-700 BC. These are plain, without ornamentation, so it is believed they were not intended as jewelry; several weigh over 500 grams, another detail against their being jewelry. The weight of bronze rings found in five separate crypts varied from 201 to 5,073 grams, with the larger number of rings found in tombs with the richer furnishings; in all crypts, the rings were attached to the legs of corpses. The ring weights seem to follow the 8.2 gram “Caucasian” siglos, which is close to the 8.4 gram Assyro-Babylonian standard. We then saw two rings found elsewhere, at 80 mm in diameter and weighing 119 and 137 grams, that could have been used as a bracelet in addition to a store of value.

The program ended with a closing assortment of stone and bronze artifacts dated to the 3000-500 BC range: seals, buttons, personal ornaments, tools, and weapons. There is no explicit evidence showing their having been used as money, but such fuctional and eye-catching items could very well have been used in trade — made by a specialist from one locationarea, for exchange while in other areas. Coins undoubtedly evolved from the use of refined metal in barter transactions; in Armenia, the transition to coinage took about three to five centuries.

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Show and Tell

Items shown at our Oct 8, 2014 meeting,
reported by Marc Stackler

  1. Rich Lipman discussed several coins and bank notes.
    1. World notes from New Zealand, France, German-occupied Lithuania (WW I), Macau, Guernsey, and Canada (the “devil note”).
    2. Two 2014 First Spouse coins, certified first strikes, .9999 fine gold $10 (half-ounce).
    3. 9/11 New York, World Trade Center memorial bronze medal.
  2. Eugene Freeman brought these items:
    1. Philippines 10 centimos, 1883/2, with the obverse bust of Alfonso XII.
    2. The Numismatic Ambassador medal and plaque awarded to him at the August 2014 ANA. See the photo on our Facebook page — so well deserved!
  3. Steve Zitowsky took us through 2 coins from the southern Arabian (Yemen) coast:
    1. Qatabanian, silver hemi drachm of Timna’: Yad’ab Dhubyan Yuharib, 155-135 BC.
    2. Himyar, silver cup-shaped (“scyphate”) quinarius of Raidan mint: Amdan Bayyin, second century AD.
  4. Phil Carrigan presented three Ottawa Coin Club medals from the 1976 Canadian Numismatic Association convention: in silver, bronze, and one of possible “white metal” composition.
  5. Bob Leonard brought items relating to the Danes and East Anglia.
    1. Denmark’s Money (Danske Monter) a book on Danish money.
    2. St. Eadmund (Edmund) memorial penny, c. 905-915 AD. St. Edmund was the English King of East Anglia from 855-869/70. He was killed / martyred by the Vikings, and soon after was made a saint. The Vikings (Danes) in East Anglia repented their having killed Edmund and subsequently issued coins memorializing him.
    3. Edward I penny from the Bury St. Edmund’s mint (located in E. Anglia), c. 1302-05.
    4. Bury St. Edmund’s “Boy Bishop” lead token, c. 1475-1500. In E. Anglia it was tradition to appoint a young boy as bishop for a month, during which time he gave alms to the poor, of which this token is an example. The token resembles a contemporary English groat.
    5. Bury St. Edmund’s copper farthing (token) dated 1664.
  6. Jim McMenamin talked about the derivation of the French “sou” and showed several examples. The word sou is derived from the Roman solidus.
    1. 1770 W (Lille) — 1 sou, Louis XV, copper.
    2. 1782 R (Orleans) — 1 sou, Louis XVI, copper.
    3. 1792 T (Nantes) — 12 denier (1 sou), Louis XVI, copper or brass.
    4. L’An 8 (1799) W (Lille) — 5 centimes (1 sou), French Republic, bronze.
    5. 1864 BB (Strasbourg) — 5 centimes, French Empire/Napoleon III, bronze.
    6. 1894 A (Paris) — 5 centimes (1 sou), French Republic, bronze.
    7. 1915 5 centimes, French Republic.
  7. Mark Wieclaw had a wide variety of things to show:
    1. Photos from the 75th Anniversary Banquet (1994).
    2. Several pocket pieces: proof Washington half dollar, Canadian “loonie” dollar, Susan B. Anthony $1, 1984 Olympic gold coin, and a 1999 George Washington gold coin.
    3. Antoninus of Volusian, 251-253 AD, mule, where the reverse depicted Juno is from one of his father’s coins.
    4. The official exhibitors and judges medal from the 2014 ANA, which the ANA issued after there was some concern that exhibitors and judges had received a lapel pin at the convention.
  8. Deven Kane brought 5 coins that he talked about.
    1. Bronze AE, Kassander, king of Macedonia, obv. head of Apollo. Kassander was a general of Alexander the Great, and killed Alexander’s son to become king of Macedonia.
    2. Celtic Britain (just prior to the Roman invasion under Claudius), Epaticcus, obv. Hercules, rev. eagle.
    3. Gross Tournois of Louis IX (St. Louis), thirteenth century.
    4. Seljuks of Rum, thirteenth century, dirham of “The Three Brothers”, from the interior area of Asia Minor (Turkey).
    5. Dirham of the Il-Khans (Persia), dirham of Arghun, a Mongol Khan, c. 1280s. The coin is bi-lingual but follows Islamic fabric, even though the Khan was a Buddhist.
  9. Bob Feiler brought 1 coin, a 1995 Turks and Caicos 5 crowns, KM-132. The reverse features the moon landing and the “ANA SALUTE TO COIN COLLECTING” legend.
  10. Leon Saryan displayed some checks related to Armenia:
    1. 1909, Southern Illinois National Bank, paid to an Armenian living in the Ottoman Empire, in pounds, to be drawn on the correspondent account at the Bank of Scotland. The back has markings that trace its return path, starting with an Ottoman Revenue stamp and ending with a British Revenue stamp.
    2. 1923, Mid-City Trust & Savings Bank of Chicago, drawn on its correspondent account at Irving Bank-Columbia Trust Company in New York and cashed at Lloyds Bank. The back side has markings that trace its return path.
    3. 1913, a large size (5.25” x 10.75”) Ottoman check, written in Armenian, for 53.75 gold payable in 31 days.

Minutes of the Chicago Coin Club Board of Directors

October 15, 2014

The October 15, 2014 meeting of the Chicago Coin Club Board was held at Connie’s Pizza, 2373 South Archer Ave., Chicago, IL. President Elliott Krieter called the meeting to order at 6:15 pm with the following members present: Steve Zitowsky, Paul Hybert, Bob Feiler, Steve Ambos, William Burd, Mark Wieclaw, Jeff Rosinia, and Carl Wolf.

Jeff Rosinia, Host Chairman of the 2015 ANA Convention, reported:

For consideration at the upcoming ANA Convention, Carl Wolf showed digitally enhanced color renderings of the Lincoln medal used to commemorate the past Conventions. Of the four shown, the backgrounds showing a variety of blue tones and a variety of golden-orange were favored. More refined renderings will be submitted at the next meeting.

Elliott appointed Jeff Rosinia, Bob Feiler, and Mark Wieclaw to the Nomination Committee, and instructed them to submit, at the November meeting, a slate of candidates to serve 2015-17. The election will take place at the December 10 annual banquet.

Regarding the Club’s 100th Anniversary in 2019, the following points were discussed:

Regarding the Club’s newsletter, the Chatter, the following was discussed, but without resolution:

Mark Wieclaw, Chairman of the Annual Banquet on December 10th reported:

Bill Burd, Archivist, reported the contents from the Safe Deposit Box closed in 2012 were merged with the Club Archives at his store and library on Archer Avenue. He submitting a master list to the Secretary.

After a discussion on souvenir sheets from past Chicago Paper Money Expo meetings, the Board authorized the Secretary and Treasurer to sell a selection of the early issues in one lot.

The meeting was adjourned at 8:15 PM.

Carl F. Wolf, Secretary

Annual Member Auction

Here are the lots known to us by October 28, 2014. The auction will be held near the start of the meeting, after a short time for lot examination.

Donation from Out-East World Coins

  1. 1957-R 100 Lira Italy — ANACS AU50.
  2. 1943 5 Cent Canada — ICG MS63.

Donation from Richard East

  1. 1956KN British West Africa Penny — MS64 RB.

Donation from Bill Burd

  1. CCC 25th Anniversary Medal depicting Lincoln, in sterling silver, dated 1944.
  2. CCC 400th Meeting Medal, May 14, 1952, counterstamped on a Mexican 1 peso, .720 fine silver.
  3. Two Tokens depicting CCC Fall Festivals — one in 1959 and the other 1962.
  4. Medal depicting CCC as 1952 National Coin Week winner counterstamped on 1949 Central Illinois Numismatic Society Medal.
  5. CCC 600th Meeting Medal, January 8, 1969.
  6. CCC 750th Meeting Medal, July 8, 1981, counterstamped on 1919 silver half dollar.
  7. CCC 800th Meeting “Janus” Medal, September 14, 1985.

Donation from Sharon Blocker (for the 2014 December Banquet)

  1. Six CCC souvenir cards, plus one duplicate.
  2. Nine money-themed ties — they were popular is past auctions,are they still fun?
  3. Coin Collecting Boards of the 1930s & 1940s, by David W. Lange.

Donation from Bill Rumph

  1. 1991 100th Anniversary ANA Convention Medal 2½ inch bronze.

Consignment from Sharon Blocker

  1. Chicago Coin Club 750th Meeting — July 8, 1981 — counterstamped 1919 half dollar.
  2. Chicago Coin Club items:
    2013 silver Lincoln medal.
    2007 Unofficial Merciless Roast of Carl Wolf round.
    85th Anniversary round with committee member names.
    90th Aanniversary encased postage stamp.
    1000th meeting program.
  3. Seated Liberty Quarter Tie Tack. MB: $5.
  4. Coins — The Collectors Corner Book.
  5. The Experts Guide Collecting & Investing in Rare Coins, by Q. David Bowers.
  6. History of the United States Mint and Its Coinage, by David W. Lange.
  7. Encyclopedia of U.S. Silver & Gold Commemorative Coins 1892-1954, by Anthony Swiatek and Walter Breen.
  8. United States Mint 1996 — Half Dollar Holiday Ornament.
  9. United States Mint 1997 — Washington Quarter Holiday Ornament.

Consignment from Bill Rumph

  1. F.H. Noble & Co. medal 1¼ inch dia. — Chicago Oct 1906.
  2. Heathers Chicago Curling Club pin (this is an early version of pin still used today).

Consignment from Larry

  1. “The Discoverers” Medal — 1994 — 75th Anniversary Chicago Coin Club — bronze #00100
  2. ANA 98th Anniversary medal w/ribbon 1¼ inch dia.
  3. Grand Encampment Ribbon August 1892 — Denver, Colo.
  4. 1873-1873 book by Harry X Boosel, 1960, hardcover, autographed, Ser #473.
  5. 1873-1873 book by Harry X Boosel, 1960 softcover, autographed, Ser #406.
  6. Chicago Coin Club 1000th Meeting booklet, banquet program, and commemorative ornament. CCC Bulletin — Bicentennial Issue 1976, and CCC 500th Meeting booklet — Sep 14, 1960.
  7. Lincoln Medal — “In Memorium Abraham Lincoln 1809-1865”
  8. Washington pin back from the 1876 Philadelphia Exposition.
  9. 8 ANA Convention badges — issued to Harry X Boosel in years of 1933, 1934-1936, 1938, 1941-1942, 1948-1949.
  10. 10 ANA Convention badges — issued to Harry X Boosel and his wife in years of 1950-1957; also one extra badge from 1952 and 1954.

Consignment from Bob Leonard

  1. Mystery Lot — items found by York, England Treasure Hunting Club in 1980s.
  2. Coin Dealer Directory — 10th Edition, 1997.
  3. Handbook of United States Coins, 18th Edition, 1961.
  4. U.S. Commemorative Coins pamphlet from Bowers and Merena Galleries.
  5. Two issues of The Numismatist: January 1947 and August 1956.

Consignment from Rich Lipman

  1. Groupings of financial instruments (mostly bonds, with some stocks) from the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. Mostly European, concentrated in Austria, Hungary, France, and Ottoman Empire.
  2. Chinese New Year material (from U.S. Mint and BEP), similar to the material and format offered by Rich in recent years.

Consignment from Carl Wolf

  1. American Numismatic Association Publications:
    Counterfeit Detection, a reprint from The Numismatist, 1983, 151 pages
    Bressett, Kenneth and A. Kosoff, Official ANA Grading Standards for United States Coins, 1977, ANA, Colorado Springs, CO, 352 pages, hardcover.
  2. Bowers, Q. David, Adventures with Rare Coins, 1979, Bowers and Ruddy Galleries, Los Angeles, CA, 305 pages, hardcover.
  3. Bowers, Q. David, Auction The Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. Collection, New York City, April 6-8, 1997, 416 pages, Lots 1349 - 3308.
  4. Bowers, Q. David, An Inside View of the Coin Hobby in the 1930’s: The Walter P. Nichols File, 1984, Bowers & Merena Galleries, Wolfeboro, NY, 144 pages.
  5. Bowers, Q. David, The History of United States Coinage: as Illustrated by the Garrett Collection, 1984, Bowers & Merena Galleries, Wolfeboro, NH, 572 pages, black hardcover.
  6. Bowers, Q. David, United States Gold Coins: An Illustrated History, 1984, Bowers & Merena Galleries, Wolfeboro, NH, 415 pages, red hardcover.
  7. Breen, Walter, Complete Encyclopedia of U.S. and Colonial Coins, 1988, Doubleday, NY, 754 pages, black hardcover with paper cover.
  8. Green, C.E., Mint Record & Type-Table: United States Coins, 1936, self-published, Chicago, blue hardcover, 252 pages.
  9. Judd, J. Hewitt, United States Pattern, Experimental & Trial Pieces, 5th Edition, 1959, Western Publishing Co., Racine, WI, 260 pages, blue hardcover.
  10. Judd, J. Hewitt, United States Pattern, Experimental & Trial Pieces, 8th Edition, 2003, Edited by Q. David Bowers, Whitman Publishing Co., Atlanta, GA, 337 pages, hardcover.
  11. Kagin, Donald, Ph.D., Private Gold Coins and Patterns of the United States, 1981, Arco Publishing Inc., NY, 406 pages, hardcover with paper sleeve.
  12. Mercer, Ray, A Buyer’s Guide to Grading and Minting Characteristics of United States Commemorative Coins, 1986, Connecticut Numismatic Properties, 45 pages.
  13. Newman, Eric P. and Kenneth E. Bressett, The Fantastic 1804 Dollar, 1962, Whitman Publishing Co., Racine, WI, 144 pages, brown hardcover, autographed by both authors.
  14. Pettit, William A., The Resurrection of the First Columbian Half Dollars, 1967, self-published, Special Exhibit at the Professional Numismatic Guild & CCC Convention, Palmer House, Chicago, Oct 19-22, 1967.
  15. Price, Martin Jessop, Coins: An Illustrated Survey 650 BC to Present Day, 1980, Methuen, Inc., NY 320 pages, hardcover, paper sleeve (torn) and cardboard slip cover.
  16. Raymond, Wayte, The Silver Dollars of North & South America, 2nd Edition, 1939, Western Publishing, Racine, WI, 125 pages, brown hardcover.
  17. Sarg, Tony, Pictorial Map of A Century of Progress Exposition, folds out to approximate 26” x 52,” printed in color by R.H. Donnelley, shows panorama view of exposition grounds, whimsical sea monsters, whales, planes, and ships in Lake Michigan. Comes with original kraft envelope that is breaking at the folds.
  18. Slabough, Arlie R., United States Commemorative Coins, 1962, Whitman Publishing, Racine, WI, autographed “To Cliff Hewitt/With Best Regards/Arlie R. Slabough,” grey hardcover, 144 pages.
  19. Taxay, Don, Counterfeit, Mis-Struck and Unofficial U.S. Coins, 1963, Arco Publishing Company, NY, 221 pages, hardcover with paper sleeve.
  20. Whitman Publishing Series, black covers on all:
    Davenport, John S., The Silver Dollars of Africa, 1959. 42 pages.
    Dodson, O.H., Money Tells the Story, 1962, 64 pages.
    Yeoman, R.S., Money’s of the Bible, 1961, 61 pages.
    Gould, Maurice M. and Kenneth Bressett, Hawaiian Coins, Tokens and Paper Money, 1961, 48 pages.
    Gould, Maurice M. and Lincoln W. Higgie, The Money of Puerto Rico, 1962, 83 pages.
    Fuld, George and Melvin, A Guide to Civil War Store Card Tokens, 1962, 96 pages.
    Rothert, Matt, A Guide Book of United States Fractional Currency, 1963, 81 pages, included a news release to all newspapers and numismatic columnists.
    Shafer, Neil, United States Territorial Coinage for the Philippine Islands, 1961, 61 pages.
    Slabaugh, Arlie R., Confederate States Paper Money, Centennial Edition 1961, 64 pages.
    Aliz, Charles G. and E.H. Barton, Foreign Coins Struck at United States Mints, 1965, 63 pages.
  21. “Hewitt Numismatic Information Series,” published by Hewitt Bros., Numismatic Scrapbook Magazine, 7320 Milwaukee Ave. Chicago, IL.
    Breen, Walter, Dies and Coinage, 1965, 34 pages.
    Breen, Walter, Early United States Half Eagles, 1795-1838, 1970 or before, 72 pages.
    Breen, Walter, Major Varieties of the United States Three Dollar Gold Pieces, 1970 or before, 19 pages.
    Breen, Walter, United States Eagles, ND, 59 pages.
    Hazeltine, John, Hazeltine Type Table Catalog of Early U.S. Half Dollars, 1970 or before, 53 pages, originally published in 1881 by John Hazeltine. Additional Varieties by B. Max Mehl, 1927.
    Hewitt, Lee F., Nevada Gaming Tokens, 1970, 29 pages.
    Kramer, Albert, Double D’ Cent Guide, 1965 or later, 87 pages.
    Pennington, Paul, How to Read Greek Coins, 1970 or before, 22 pages.
    Pennington, Paul, later printing/edition.
    Mervis, Clyde D., Cleaning Coins, 1970 or before, 22 pages.
    Ramsey, Robert, A Tentative Checklist of Spanish-American Bust-Type Silver, 1969, 67 pages.
    Slabaugh, Arlie R., Confederate States of America Paper Money, 1971 Revised Edition, 80 pages.
    Slabaugh, Arlie R., Confederate States of America Paper Money, 1977 6th Edition, 80 pages.
    Slabaugh, Arlie R., Encased Postage Stamps: U.S. & Foreign, 1970 or before, 35 pages.
    Slabaugh, Arlie R., Japanese Invasion Money, 1963, 30 pages.
    Slabaugh, Arlie R., Prisoner of War Monies and Medals, 1966 Second Edition, 80 pages.
    Slabaugh, Arlie R., Specialized Catalog of Small Size National Bank Notes, 1967, 48 pages.
    Steinberger, Otto C., Indian Cent Date Varieties, 1970 or before, 15 pages.
    Thompson, Walter, How United States Coins are Made, 1962, 48 pages.
    Weissbuch, Ted N., & Richard T. Hoober, Price Catalogue of U.S. Colonial and Continental Currency, 1965, 56 pages, with a section cut away on the title page.
    Weissbuch, Ted N. & Lee F. Hewitt, United States Numismatic Dictionary, ND, 39 pages.
    No Author, Price Catalog of United States Hard Times Tokens, 1970 or before, 68 pages.
  22. Miscellaneous Pamphlets:
    Lamb, Robert A., A Catalogue of French Emergency Tokens of 1914-1922, 1967, self-published, 56 pages.
    Slabaugh, Arlie R., The German Inflation, ND, distributed by Spotlite Publications, Oakland, Maryland, 40 pages.
    A Premium Guide: Cash Prices Paid for Your Canada, Newfoundland, United States & Great Britain Coins and Currency, Vol 1. No. 1, 1960 or before, Coin & Currency Guild of Canada, Toronto, 49 pages.

Preview of Our December Banquet (1152nd Meeting)

Date:December 10, 2014 (This is on a Wednesday!)
Time:6PM to 7PM Cocktails and Hors d’oeuvres
7PM to 9 PM+ Dinner and Meeting
Location:Rosewood Restaurant, 9421 W. Higgins Road, Rosemont, IL 60018.
(One last time, before they close in early 2015!)

A Classic Caesar salad to start; choice of Center cut Filet Mignon, Salmon, or Medallions of Chicken, all served with double baked potato; and finished with White Chocolate chip Ice Cream with Raspberry sauce.

The cost is $45.00 per person and reservations are required. Make your check payable to Chicago Coin Club, P.O. Box 2301, Chicago, IL 60690.

Please make reservations as early as you can so we can plan for an appropriate room size.


to be announced

Agenda: Election of Club Officers
Award Presentations

Our 1151st Meeting

Date:November 12, 2014 First session
Time:6:45 PM
Location:Downtown Chicago
At the Chicago Bar Association, 321 S. Plymouth Court, 3rd floor meeting room. Please remember the security measures at our meeting building: everyone must show their photo-ID and register at the guard’s desk. Nearby parking: South Loop Self Park, 318 South Federal Street; that is two short blocks west of our meeting site. Note: Their typical rate of $33 is reduced to $9 if you eat at the Plymouth Restaurant, 327 S. Plymouth Court (next to our meeting site at the CBA) — show the restaurant your parking ticket, and ask for a parking voucher. The restaurant offers standard sandwiches, burgers, and salads for members who want to meet for dinner. Another group of members tries a different restaurant each month — ask around at a meeting to see where they will dine next. Members start arriving for dinner at 5pm, and at the meeting room after 6pm.
Member Auction:

You can place a reserve on each lot, and there is no commission charged to either the buyer or seller. Auction lot viewing will be held before the meeting starts, and again briefly before the auction starts.

Please find elsewhere in this issue of the Chatter a listing of all auction lots that were known to us by Tuesday, October 28.

Date:November 22, 2014, Second session
Time:1:00 PM
Location:At the National Coin and Currency Convention, which is held at the Crown Plaza Chicago O’Hare, 5440 North River Road, Rosemont, IL. No admission charge for our meeting.
Featured speaker:Doug Davis — Numismatic Crime: Developing a Tactical Mindset for Collectors and Dealers

Numismatic crimes are increasing. Collectors and dealers who stay current in their education and awareness of security risks can reduce the chance of becoming the next victim. Doug Davis founded the Numismatic Crime Information Center with a mission to serve as an international resource for collectors, dealers, and law enforcement in the education, prevention, and investigation of crimes involving numismatic material. Collectors will hear some of the latest methods criminals use and learn of new technologies available to prevent crime and help investigators solve crimes. We are fortunate to have Doug share his 30 years of experience in law enforcement and the numismatic industry. Those who attend will advance their education in crime prevention and learn their role with an investigation when crime occurs. Don’t miss this program!

Important Dates

Unless stated otherwise, our regular monthly CCC Meeting is in downtown Chicago on the second Wednesday of the month; the starting time is 6:45PM.

November 12 CCC Meeting - Member Auction - no featured speaker
November 21-23 PCDA National Coin and Currency Convention at the Crown Plaza Chicago O’Hare, 5440 North River Road, Rosemont, IL. Admission is $5 for Friday through Sunday. Details at
November 22 CCC Meeting - 1pm at the PCDA National Coin and Currency Convention, which is held at the Crown Plaza Chicago O’Hare, 5440 North River Road, Rosemont, IL. No admission charge for our meeting.
Featured Speaker - Doug Davis on Numismatic Crime: Developing a Tactical Mindset for Collectors and Dealers
December 10 CCC Meeting - Annual Banquet - In Rosemont this year - Featured Speaker to be announced
January 14 CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker to be announced

Chatter Matter

All correspondence pertaining to Club matters should be addressed to the Secretary and mailed to:

P.O. Box 2301

Club Officers

Elliott Krieter- President
Richard Lipman- First Vice President
Marc Stackler- Second Vice President
William Burd- Archivist
Directors:Steve Ambos
Robert Feiler
Dale Lukanich
Mark Wieclaw
Other positions held are:
Jeffrey Rosinia- Immediate Past President
Carl Wolf- Secretary
Steve Zitowsky- Treasurer
Paul Hybert- Chatter Editor
Robert Feiler- ANA Club Representative

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