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Volume 53 No. 9 September 2007

Minutes of the 1064th Meeting

The 1064th meeting of the Chicago Coin Club was held August 15, 2007, a week later than normal to accommodate the American Numismatic Association Convention in Milwaukee. The meeting was called to order at 7 PM with President Robert Feiler in the 6th floor conference room, Dearborn Center, 131 S. Dearborn. In attendance were 26 members and 1 guest, Svetlana Mefford.

The July Minutes as published in the Chatter were approved as written. Treasurer Steve Zitowsky reported July income of $310.00, expenses of $250.00 (Dec. banquet deposit) with $11,117.77 in total assets. He also announced that Kevin and Sharon Blocker donated $400.00 to be evenly split between postage for the Chatter and December banquet costs. Carl Wolf reported sales of $60.00 in the Club’s CICF souvenir cards at the recent Milwaukee ANA convention. The applications for membership of Leroy Gayden and Steven Ambos received second readings and separate motions were made and passed to accept them into the Club.

First Vice President Jeff Rosinia introduced Marc Stackler, the featured speaker for the evening. Following his presentation A Numismatic Overview of the Mexican War of Independence, 1810-1821, he was presented with an ANA Educational Certificate and an engraved Club medal.

Second Vice President Lyle Daly directed the exhibitor portion of the evening with members showing many purchases from the recent ANA Convention. ROBERT KULYS: from Lithuania 5 silver proof coins and a 200 litas coin; DON DOOL: bronze coins from Araucania & Patagonia, Dutch city of Elburg and Italian city of Casale; EUGENE FREEMAN: 6 coins including 2 German notgeld, a 1944 proof set from The Philippines, 1930 coin from Iceland, a Portuguese coin struck for the Azores and an ancient Roman denarius; JASON FREEMAN: a 2007 Jamboree Scouting coin, an autographed $10 bill from the BEP booth at the ANA Convention and a Polish coin honoring the breaking of the enigma code; ROBERT FEILER: box medal made of German coin with 24 interleafed 4-color WWI scenes from the German front; MARK WIECLAW: numismatic memorabilia from the ANA convention, a silaqua of Constantius II, a steel plated 1944 Lincoln cent in a bottle, and a 1964 Kennedy half dollar promoting the Illinois Tollway; SHARON BLOCKER: 3 proof world coins and acrylic block with the image of Liberty from the Mercury dime; WINSTON ZACK: Bust halves, Morgan dollars and a Roosevelt dime; STEVE ZITOWSKY: 4 Medieval coins with exceptional detail and decoration on the holders; ROBERT WEINSTEIN: 6 coins from Parata Raja; JOHN RILEY: British Boy Scout coin and 3 world coins that never circulated; ROBERT LEONARD: imitation and genuine Venetian ducat of Giovanni Gradenigo and 2 huckleberry tokens from Heflin, Alabama; LYLE DALY: 2 subscription series dollars from Australia, 1990 un-circulated $50 federal reserve note, and 1935 20-centavo. SVETLANA MEFFORD showed 4 silver proof coins from the Soviet Union and asked members for any information they could share.

Under old business it was announced that reservations are in place for the December 12th banquet at Marcello’s Restaurant, 645 W. North Ave., Chicago. Under new business Phil Carrigan announced the publication of Canadian Numismatic Bibliography in a 1200-page, 2-volume set. Carl Wolf called for members to exhibit and/or deliver a program at the Illinois Numismatic Association Coin Show, September 7-9 in Countryside. It was also announced that the Central States Numismatic Society will hold their annual coin show in Rosemont in the spring of 2008. Members were encouraged to begin preparing exhibits. Sharon Blocker spoke on how much she and Kevin enjoyed meeting many people at the Milwaukee ANA Convention.

Sincerely Submitted,
Carl F. Wolf, Secretary

Speaker’s Wor[l]d
Coinage from the Mexican War of Independence, 1810-1821

presented to our August 15, 2007 meeting by Marc Stackler

Marc started with an overview of the situation in New Spain in 1810. The rigid class structure gave power to those born in Spain, provided few opportunities for those locally born to Spanish parents (the creoles), and offered even less to those of mixed Spanish and native ancestry (the mestizos); the natives were at the bottom. Only a single newspaper was allowed in all of New Spain; the church and Spanish-appointed government held all power. But this system was about to change, starting at the very top.

After Napolean invaded Spain, he placed his brother on the throne. While those ruling New Spain were distracted by the political situation at home, the local-born populace did not remain silent. Some of the ostensibly social and literary meeting groups likely discussed politics quietly; some possibly even planning rebellion. A riot in the province of Guanajuato turned into an insurection under Father Miguel Hidalgo, moving from town to town, looting, and killing Spaniards, while moving towards Mexico City. Although no Spanish army garrison protected the capitol, the mob, weakened by a hard vicyory, was turned back by an arriving Spanish army and was never again that close to Mexico City. It was bloody, scorched earth fighting on both sides, with both sides securing some provinces. Mints opened in Republican provinces starting in 1811; Loyalists opened provincial mints reluctantly, sending dies from the mint in Mexico City. Marc then showed some pieces.

A cast 1813 8 reales from Chihuahua, has obverse countermarks of a “T” and pillars of Hercules topped by a pomegranate. The obverse of some pieces from Zacatecas shows two hills near the town, and the L.V.O. is for “Labor conquers all.” The reverse is similar to the traditional reverse, which seems strange until one realizes that many rebels, while against rule from Spain, favored a local emperor in Mexico. The legend on some early rebel pieces translates as Fernando VII by the grace of god. A subsequent congress identified the monarch as Fernando by the authority of congress, and another congress, tired of waiting for Fernando’s return to the throne, declared for a constitutional monarch.

The 1811-1813 period wa the high water mark of the rebellion. After Hidalgo was captured and executed, Morales was put in charge of the southern areas. He had little silver, so he coined copper pieces redeemable in silver after success. These pieces are common from 1813 and 1814, and the design elements include “SUD,” the date, a bow and arrow, and Morales’ monogram (the letters J and M, sharing a common upright). Later pieces include a floral pattern, possibly grapes or olives. Silver coins were struck when a silver cache was found in a taken town.

By 1815, Morales was on the defensive, and he was captured while protecting the retreating congress. Most rebels laid down their arms to take advantage of the viceroy’s offer of amnesty. The ensuing years were quiet, and Fernando was back on the throne by 1820. Plans were made and troops gathered in Spain to reclaim the colonies, but officers bound for South America revolted in January, 1821. The viceroy in Mexico City sent General Iturbide south to root out the rebels; instead, he negotiated with the rebels, became the leader of the rebels, and marched the combined forces back on the Viceroy. With the search for a House of Bourbon ruler unsuccessful, his troops made Iturbide emperor.

It took a few more years to sort out everything, from Fernando’s return to the throne, his repudiation of the viceroy’s treaty, and the Spanish soldiers still stationed in Mexico. The years of war that resulted in Mexico’s independence from Spain were marked by harsh fighting and shifting goals; fascinating for coin collectors, but tragic for Mexico.

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Show and Tell

Items shown at our August 15, 2007 meeting.

  1. Robert Kulys showed Lithuanian coins from a recent series honorng early rulers of Lithuania. The mintages for this multi-year series range from 4,000 to 6,000, which is a large amount for this country. The following proof silver 50 litas pieces were shown: A 200 litas gold and silver piece from 2003, honoring the crowning of Mindaugas, completed Robert’s presentation.
  2. Don Dool showed three items acquired at ANA in Milwaukee:
  3. Eugene Freeman had fun at ANA in Milwaukee, and he had an assortment of pieces to show.
  4. Jason Freeman showed some recent acquisitions:
  5. Bob Feiler did not make it to Milwaukee for the ANA, but he still had a new box medal to show. It is a duplicate of a piece he showed us some years ago; made out of a Ludwig III king of Bavaria medal, its 24 four-color inserts (rondells) feature military personnel and scenes from World War I.
  6. Mark Wieclaw showed a range of items:
  7. Sharon Blocker showed some 2007 items:
  8. Winston Zack showed some purchases from ANA in Milwuakee:
  9. Steve Zitowsky showed some items from ANA in Milwaukee. The markings on the holders indicate that most were from the same collection. From the handwriting on the holders, Bob Leonard identified these as being from the George Fisher collection. The general feeling is that this is how to collect coins!
  10. Bob Weinstein showed a number of coins from an obscure Indian dynasty, issued from late in the first century BC up to the second cntury AD. These were first identified in the 20th century from only three coins; by 1972, only eight coins were available for research, but more now are listed in Senior’s work. Coins from the older part of the series use the Kharosty alphabet, with the more recent coins using the Brahmin system.
  11. John Riley showed pieces from ANA in Milwaukee, starting with a Boy Scout commemorative, struck in copper nickel by the British Royal Mint, in a nice pamphlet. Then he showed WW2-era coinage intended for circulation but never did:
  12. Bob Leonard continued some previous exhibiting themes with:
  13. Lyle Daly showed some acquisition from ANA in Milwaukee:

Our 1065th Meeting

Date:September 12, 2007
Time:7:00 PM
Location:Downtown Chicago
At Dearborn Center, 131 S. Dearborn, 6th Floor, Conference Room 6A (right off the elevator lobby). Please remember the security measures at our meeting building: give a club officer the names of all your guests prior to the meeting day; and everyone must show their photo-ID and register at the guard’s desk.
Featured speaker:Dennis Ciechna - National Banknotes & Memorabilia from the Lawndale National Bank

Dennis Ciechna recently rejoined the Chicago Coin Club. As a youth Dennis was introduced to coin collecting by his grandfather, a close friend of I.T. Kopicki, a primary Club official for forty years. Kopicki was an officer of the Lawndale Bank, signed some of their National Bank Notes and is credited with giving the Club lifetime free checking. Kopicki also mentored young Ciechna, allowing him to come into the bank and examine rolls of coinage. Join Ciechna as he shares old photos of the Bank’s interior, the employees and its National Bank Notes.

Important Dates

September 7-10 Illinois Numismatic Association Convention at the Park Place Banquet Hall, 6200 Joliet Road, Countryside, IL.
September 8 Educational Program at the Illinois Numismatic Association Convention at the Park Place Banquet Hall, 6200 Joliet Road, Countryside, IL. Take I-55 to LaGrange Road Exit 279 North, go 1.2 miles, turn left on Joliet Road, go 2 blocks and it’s on the south side of Joliet Road — a tall black building, with the entrance at the rear of the building.
All programs will be held on the stage.
Noon Paul Robertz Collecting a U.S. Type Set
1PM Phil Carrigan Collecting Barber Coinage
2PM John Wright Collecting U.S. Silver Dollars & Their Ancestors
September 12 CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - Dennis Ciechna on National Banknotes & Memorabilia from the Lawndale National Bank
October 10 CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - to be announced
November 14 CCC Meeting - Club Auction - no featured speaker
December 12 CCC Meeting - Annual Banquet - Featured Speaker - to be announced

Birthday and Year Joined

October 13 Bernard L. Schwartz 1986
October 14 Joel J. Reznick 1981
October 14 Warren G. Schultz
October 17 Margo Russell
October 17 Joseph Boling 2006

Chatter Matter

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P.O. Box 2301

Club Officers

Robert Feiler- President
Jeff Rosinia- First Vice President
Lyle Daly- Second Vice President
William Burd- Archivist
Directors:Eugene Freeman
Elliot Krieter
Carl Wolf
Mark Wieclaw
Other positions held are:
Carl Wolf- Secretary
Steve Zitowsky- Treasurer
Paul Hybert- Chatter Editor

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