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Volume 52 No. 8 August 2006

Minutes of the 1051st Meeting

The 1051st meeting of the Chicago Coin Club was called to order at 7 PM by President Robert Feiler with 16 members and 2 guests present. Guests were David G. Gumm and Richard Hall. The applications for membership of Paul Robertz and Robert Kulys received second reading and a motion was made and passed to accept them into membership. The application of Richard Hall received first reading.

Treasurer Steve Zitowsky reported June revenue of $145.00, expenses $229.26, leaving $10,463.25 in the treasury. A motion was made and passed to accept the report.

First V.P. Jeff Rosinia introduced the featured speaker Steve Feller from Cedar Rapids, Iowa who spoke on Money from Occupied Guernsey and Jersey 1940-1945. Following the program, Jeff presented Steve with an ANA Educational Certificate and a Club engraved medal.

The nine exhibitors for the evening were ROBERT LEONARD: a gold dinar of Ayyubid Sultan Al-Salih Najm Al-Din Ayyub from 1243-44 and a silver denier Tournois of Louis IX of France 1266-70; STEVE FELLER: WWII German Reichsmark occupation notes, military notes and a Handy Pocket Guide of German Exchange Card; DONALD DOOL: an unidentified coin from the 16th century Ottoman Empire, three coins struck at the Messina Mint in Sicily – John II, 1458-79, William I, 1149-66, William II, 1166-89, a Venetian coin issued under Marino Grimanl, 1595-1605 and a 1978 medal showing San Martin and Moreno; ROBERT WEINSTEIN: Columbian Exposition medal of the Ferris wheel, 1893, Elongated cent America’s Expo held in San Diego, 1935, Chicago merchant token issued in the late 1880s for B.F. Norris that included a perpetual calendar, an Indo-Scythian silver drachm of Spalyrises as heir apparent, 70 B.C., four Indo-Scythian bronze coins in three denominations, about 60-20 B.C., an Indo-Scythian silver drachm of King Lysias, 160-150 B.C. showing a spectacular image of Heracles on the reverse; ROBERT FEILER: silver denearo struck in Lucea, Italy, issued by Henry III, 1039-1125, used by crusaders to the Holy Land and a 1975 silver round replica of 1693 Leopold the Hog Mouth; EUGENE FREEMAN: 1894-S Barber quarter, 1892 Barber quarter with doubled-die reverse, 1892-S Barber quarter with tripled-die reverse, 1909-S Barber half dollar with an inverted S mintmark and and an Argentinean 20 centavos with doubled-die obverse; MARK WIECLAW: Speedway dollar and a Jimmie buck from Chicagoland Speedway, 2006 American Buffalo 24-carat gold coin with shipping box clearly labeled as holding 500-ounces of gold, 1882 100-franc gold coin from Paris Mint, 3.5" one-ounce .999 silver 2001 Buffalo medallion from National Collectors Mint; STEVE ZITOWSKY: 1863 U.S. Civil War token (No. 414/209) “If anyone dares to tear it down, shoot him on the spoot” with misspelling of spot, an 1838 quarter eagle with attached loop for necklace, 1851 Papal States, 2-baiocchi with India ink notation indicating it was once held by a museum and an Army Temperance Medal India, 1897, “Watch and Be Sober” issued for the constabulary and made into a pin-back broach; LYLE DALY: 13-piece set of Canadian large cents, 1858-1920, with a challenge to find the 2 coins cleaned prior to purchase but he retoned, a naturally toned 1875 U.S. quarter in AU condition, 2 counterfeit 1879 U.S. trade dollars and a book by Don Taxay Counterfeit, Mis-Struck and Unofficial U.S. Coins.

Under old business Paul Robertz and Richard Hall spoke of possible contacts that might help convert the Club’s 1994 beta cam recordings on to DVDs.

Under new business Carl Wolf and Steve Zitowsky volunteered to check out Marcello’s Restaurant for the December 13th annual banquet. Robert Leonard led a discussion on a possible 2007 CICF souvenir card that included: fur, cigarette, silver granules and trade beads. Carl Wolf related a story of attending a meeting of the Old Timers Baseball Association of Chicago and how he met four coin collectors. Bill Burd spoke of the November auction and announced that a deceased member’s collection of Club material would be featured. Carl Wolf announced his appointment to the steering committee of the Field Museum’s Anthropology Alliance. Among the goals of the group is to bring evening educational programs with curators, collections staff and visiting scholars. Carl spoke on his belief that select numismatic talks could compliment some of the Museum’s large exhibits. Members were encouraged to monitor the upcoming schedule and write him of possible numismatic programs.

The meeting was adjourned at 9:15 PM.

Respectfully submitted,
Carl Wolf, Secretary

Speaker’s Wor[l]d
Money from Occupied Guernsey and Jersey 1940-1945

A presentation by Steve Feller to our July 12, 2006 meeting.

While spending some months earlier this year in the U.K., Steve was able to take a brief trip to the Channel Islands. The souvenirs and information he collected formed the heart of his presentation to the club. He started with the boarding pass for his flight to Jersey from Coventry, then showed snapshots of the small airplanes from that flight and the flight on to Jersey. Many more photographs of island scenes followed during the program.

The Channel Islands are British; not English, not U.K., but British for the last 900 years, except for the five years of German occupation during WWII. You will be corrected during your stay on the islands if you call them anything other than British. (Officially, they are Crown Dependencies.) There are five private museums on the islands devoted to the occupation years. Steve showed photographs of some, along with admission receipts. Some museums sell duplicates of their materials, and Steve did acquire some numismatic and philatelic pieces from them and from other island sources. However, the locals know the value of the material and charge accordingly.

There were at least five issues of paper money for Guernsey: three by the Germans and two local. The two German coins (five and ten pfennig in zinc) were the general European coins, not special issues just for Guernsey and Jersey. The marks and pounds passed at the same time, with published conversion rates changing over time. The British redeemed marks at the end of the war — not too popular as it seemed to reward collaborators.

The German military marks (analogous to MPC, Military Payment Certificates) were used in local German canteens or sent back home. Other German issues were legal tender only outside of Germany. To obtain permission to issue local notes, the Guernsey Government had to turn over to the Germans al Bank of England notes. This was done, but only after stamping the notes with a “withdran from circulation” statement. They are known with different wordings. Steve showed some five pound local issue notes; the largest denomination printed, but never issued. Some notes showed island scenes, and Steve did his best to take matching photographs. Steve showed some German propaganda photographs of Germans around the island: one talking with a British policeman, three in front of a British pub, and a military band marching past LLoyds Bank. Then Steve showed some recent island photographs, including the front of that same bank.

The Jersey notes are more evocative (and less expensive) than Guernsey’s. A number were shown, starting discussions about the designs. The Guernsey and Jersey money circulate on the other island, and did so during the war, too.

Some newspaper clippings from the occupation were shown, some giving new money conversion rates and some showing the Commandant’'s new rules. Among them, road traffic was moved to the right side of the road, and local time was changed to German time. Some islanders were sent to Europe as laborers, and Steve showed a note used in one of those barracks.

Among Steve’s philatelic items were a First Day Cover and a cover with six different Jersey stamps postmarked at 4:45PM on 8 May 1945, the day of Germany’s surrender and the day before the islands were liberated.

Details of the German and local issues were given in this presentation, along with details of the withdrawn Guernsey and Bank of England notes. World War Two Remembered by Schwan and Boling needs some updating.

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Show and Tell

Items shown at our July 12, 2006 meeting.

  1. Some months ago, Robert Leonard showed a set of gold coins of the first six Ayubid sultans. He completed the series by showing a pure gold dinar of the seventh, and last, Ayubid sultan who died of tuberculosis six months after France’s Louis IX invaded Egypt on a crusade. The sultan’s death was not immediately announced, to give his son time to return from Syria. Upon his return, however, the son replaced his father’s generals with his friends, so the generals killed the son, ending the dynasty. Then Bob showed a small base silver coin of the king of France.
  2. Steve Feller showed some items related to his presentation:
  3. Don Dool mentioned that one of the benefits of writing a column is that people send him coins! For answering a question, he received an unidentified Ottoman Empire 16th century coin. Someone else sent him four copper pieces found some years ago along the Mdeiterranean: Don concluded by showing a San Martin medal featuring busts of San Martin and Mariano Moreno. The dates 1778-1978 appear.
  4. Bob Weinstein treated us to a wide range of pieces: Bob concluded with a run of Indo-Scythian coins:
  5. Bob Feiler showed some recent acquisitions:
  6. Eugene Freeman continued his string of Barber coin varieties from last month:
  7. Mark Wieclaw showed a range of items:
  8. Steve Zitowsky also showed a range of items:
  9. Last year, Lyle Daly brought in a paper on doctoring coins, but he has been unable to achieve delicate silver toning. His exhibits started with some toned coins:

Our 1052nd Meeting

Date:August 9, 2006
Time:7:00 PM
Location:Downtown Chicago
At Dearborn Center, 131 S. Dearborn, 6th Floor, Conference Room 6A (right off the elevator lobby). Please remember the security measures at our meeting building: give a club officer the names of all your guests prior to the meeting day; and everyone must show their photo-ID and register at the guard’s desk.
Featured speaker:Winston Zack - 2006 ANA Summer Seminar

Club member Winston Zack was awarded a scholarship to attend one week of the ANA’s Summer Seminar in Colorado Springs in early July. It is not just five days on one topic; learn about the other special programs and educational opportunities available for two weeks in early July at ANA headquarters.

Important Dates

August 9 CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - Winston Zack on 2006 ANA Summer Seminar
September 13 CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - to be announced
October 11 CCC Meeting - Featured Speaker - Andrew J. Donnelly on Tetrarchic Mint Control, 284-324
November 8 CCC Meeting - Club Auction - no featured speaker

Birthday and Year Joined

September 2 John Wilson 1984
September 7 James M. McMenamin 1975
September 18 Michael M. Dolnick 1952
September 18 Gregory Gajda 1999
September 19 Russell F. Wajda 2000
September 21 Kerry K. Wetterstrom 1999
September 24 Michael A. Pesha 1979
September 25 Saul Needleman 1992
September 26 Dennis P. Ciechna 1999
September 29 Gordon R. Donnell 1999

Call for Trip Reports

Every year, some club members submit trip reports about the ANA summer convention. Reports are accepted from all club members on any numismatic event, so do not be shy. Submit something while it is all fresh in your memory.

No need to list everything that happened there; a few paragraphs on your highlights of the convention is fine. Make us stay-at-homes wish we had attended the 2006 Denver convention!

Reports submitted by Wednesday, August 30, will appear in the September Chatter.

Chatter Matter

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Club Officers

Robert Feiler- President
Jeff Rosinia- First Vice President
Lyle Daly- Second Vice President
Directors:Phil Carrigan
Carl Wolf
Steve Zitowsky
Mark Wieclaw
Other positions held are:
Carl Wolf- Secretary
Steve Zitowsky- Treasurer
Paul Hybert- Chatter Editor
William Burd- Archivist

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